Sorry women, time to move over
And there’s another one.
Meanwhile in the US, middle distance runner Jonathan Eastwood will be running as ‘June’ in the women’s races. Jonathan can run 800m faster than @damekellyholmes at her peak. Looks like we have another ‘exceptional woman’ about to hit the track. Sorry women, time to move over.
More joy of sport for you.
Some days I cannot believe this farce is real. No one would have written a novella with this as the plot; it’s too absurd.
I can’t understand why any athlete would want to compete given such an advantage.
Many, many (many) years ago I competed in various martial arts. There was a particular time when I was about 16 when I was ridiculously tall for my age and weight and this gave me a clear advantage of reach over most of the people I competed against.
You know what? I felt bad about it. I felt that I might not be winning because of skill but because my arms and legs were longer than everyone elses. I didn’t like it, I wanted to win because I was more skilled than my opponent, not because I had a physical advantage that they didn’t have.
I couldn’t help my height, of course, and I did have some skill and I trained very hard. But it would have been more fair to put me in a higher weight class. I’d have welcomed it. I just wanted my skill to be the differentiator rather than my gangly mr tickle arms and legs.
I just really don’t understand why anyone wants to win against an opponent with a comparative disadvantage.
I know that they obviously do, but I can’t understand why they don’t hate themselves for it.
latsot, from living with my family for my growing up years, I became painfully aware that for some people, it is all about winning. They are able to kid themselves that they are winning by their skill and talent, not their size or other advantage.
I mean, for centuries men have been winning over women by putting in place rules that prohibited women from doing a lot of things. Then they claim that they are superior, and use the fact that women haven’t been prominent in those fields as an example. The same with white people over people of color. Rich people over poor people. Many of these people were not superior to the groups they looked down on (in many cases, even inferior, as the steady train of kings and emperors demonstrated), but the deck was stacked in their favor. They denied the deck was stacked, the cards were marked, the home base was closer, and they already were on third base when they were born.
This is just plain old arrogant narcissism that simply needs constant winning and affirmation. The trans identified males don’t want affirmation that they are female; they want affirmation that they are the best females, they are the femalest females, they are the only real true females. They just want to win. They’ll convince themselves it’s because they are better.
latsot, funny you should mention martial arts. On a previous topic I almost posted a reference to the Seinfeld episode where Kramer joins a dojo full of children, who eventually tire of getting beaten by him….
Thanks latsot, you just brought back memories of the many times my brother would hold me at arm’s length (by my head!) as I screamed and windmilled my tiny fists about 18 inches from his lanky body. Good times.
Is an unhinged desire for triumph over weaker competition THE driving force here? Or is there some genuine transness which just happens to provide an opportunity for cheap victories?
Back before the tyranny of weight divisions, in 1795, Daniel Mendoza lost the championship of England to ‘Gentleman’ John Jackson.
Jackson won by holding Mendoza out of reach by the hair and beating his face with his free hand.
This is a good observation. You see this phenomenon a lot in games of pure chance, where a winning streak is perceived to be in some part due to the gambler. It shows up in roulette and craps a lot.
It’s also apparent in video games with randomized power-ups. For example, in The Binding of Isaac, whether you succeed or fail in a given playthrough is largely determined by the random number generator: what items are available, how and which enemies appear, and the overall map layouts. And yet, players view their successes as due to their skill rather than their luck.
Catwhisperer @ 5 – funny thing, my brother (7 years older) did similar things. Not the actual head hold, that I recall, but football tackles and the like. Not full strength, but plenty rough enough.
Haha, for the sake of balance I feel like I should point out that my brother mostly used his superior strength defensively, albeit after winding my me up past the point of endurance. Also, I’ve been told I was a biter.