Intersectional me map
Stonewall UK is having its annual Workplace Conference.
https://twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1121655162953580546
So far so good.
https://twitter.com/AimeeEvelyn202/status/1121725524353658880
Uhhhh…wait.
It’s not easy to read, so I’ll transcribe.
Trans Status Wealth
Nationality Class
Gender Identity ME Race
Disability Faith
Sexual Orientation
Notice anything?
Anything missing?
Yes.
Sex.
Of course.
Women have ALL the privilege and power.
Looking at that smiling woman in the promo pick and I think, “women have been perfectly socialized to be our own oppressors”.
Well, not all of us.
They list “trans status” and “gender identity.” So effectively trans status gets counted twice, and women are erased.
“Intersectional ME map” kinda says it all…
Lady M – Which, funnily enough, is exactly how this is supposed to work: we’re expected to agree that trans women are DOUBLY oppressed, because they’re trans AND they’re women.
Sex discrimination affects trans men, too: they’re almost always perceptibly female, and they endure the usual biases and prejudices because of it. Stonewall doesn’t care about females, trans or not — they only cater to the entitled transwomen who want us all to pretend sex doesn’t exist.
The slide says “dis/ability”. Not sure how that differs from regular “disability”.
They’d probably argue that “gender identity” covers women, and you’re just happening to identify as “the gender you were assigned at birth”. But then that would cover men as well.
How many extra ‘oppression chips’ to trans-men get?
@ 6 – no, “gender identity” is emphatically and pointedly NOT the same thing as being a woman, and emphatically and pointedly does not “cover women.” They wouldn’t argue that because it’s the opposite of what they argue.
To THEM “woman” is a “gender identity.” That’s what they argue.
Being an adult human female? Per the trans orthodoxy, that’s nothing to do with whether or not you’re a woman (assuming they’ll admit the term “female” means anything.)
It’s a gender identity when they do it.
But they insist “woman” is a gender identity for you and me, too. We “identify with” the gender we were supposedly assigned at birth.
That’s why they insist we accept the qualifier “cis.”
Argue with them about this, and you will get an earful about DSDs and how sex is a “spectrum.”
It’s all gender, all the way down.
Women don’t need to be covered by this because they have the mighty power of cis privilege. Cis privilege is one of those things that the “me” in the middle needs protection from.
Quite. Gender identity is the only proper form of gender, and it’s only for trans people.
I’m not sure what you’re arguing here, Ophelia. Trans ideology bestows a “gender identity” upon everyone. “Cis privilege” means you “identify with” your “assigned [at birth] gender” and are not itrans. Cis, trans, or particular flavor of trans (i.e. only on alternate Tuesdays,) would come under “trans status.”
Random online example:
” gender
“There are many instances in the working life of college and university where we ask about gender. The TransEdu Scotland research found that questions on gender are often poorly designed and lack adequate option, causing considerable discomfort to those completing the forms.
“It is important to consider how we are asking this question and whether we actually require this information to fulfil our objectives. It is also important to explain why you are asking for this information and how you plan to use it.
“Example gender question:
“How do you describe your gender?
“Man / Male (Including trans man)
Woman / Female (Including trans woman)
In another way [Free-text option]
Prefer not to say
“How to ask about trans status
“While it is not a statutory duty for institutions, you are encouraged to ask about trans status in your equality monitoring forms. This will provide you with important data on the numbers of trans applicants, students and staff, and may enable you to identify trends in this data. Having this data may also assist in evidencing the need for certain provision within your institution.
“Researchers are also encouraged to ask about trans status when collecting demographic information from participants, particularly when undertaking large-scale research.
“Do you consider yourself to be trans or as having a trans history? Trans is an umbrella term to describe anyone whose sex and / or gender differs from that assigned to them at birth.
Yes
No
Prefer not to say”
https://www.trans.ac.uk/SupportingStaff/Askingaboutgendertransstatus/tabid/7129/Default.aspx
P. S. Forgive all the scare quotes but I canNOT bring myself to type this stuff out as if it should be taken seriously.
I don’t have a “gender.” I don’t “identify with” any gender box assigned to me (not accepted by me). I do have a sex. It wasn’t “assigned to me,” at birth or otherwise. There’s no possibility of choosing “assigning” sex. It’s simply a manifest brute bioligical fact.
maddog1129, I recently went to a new doctor and had to fill out those endless new doctor forms so they know everything about me they think is important. The blank for sex was not “sex”. It was what sex you identify as. I used the other to indicate that I do not identify as a female, I am a female. When even doctors can’t understand the difference between gender and sex, things are getting scary.
Lady M @ 14 – I’m arguing, or rather saying, that it’s not a particularly coherent concept in itself and that it’s used inconsistently and that the doctrine changes hourly, not least so that the wokest can pitch fits at everyone else for not keeping up. One of the many inconsistent things it means is a special, wised-up, enlightened take on how sex works, that “cis” people can’t possibly understand.
Ophelia, obviously “gender identity” isn’t a coherent concept at all. All’s I’m saying is that THEY impute it to everyone. Consistently. Evidence abounds.