Appropriative of the identities of transfemme people
It’s all so technical, and I don’t have a gender identity degree. It’s over my head I’m afraid.
even in that instance though they still wouldn’t be a trans woman if they were afab, similar to how I am both trans and a lesbian but I am not a trans lesbian bc that’s appropriative of the identities of transfemme ppl.
— fagdyke friday (@bigdoggenergy) April 5, 2019
Damn I’m lost already. People are allowed to be agender/genderless and still call themselves women because they see it as a sociopolitical label…so…does it matter what kind of body they have?
Oh maybe it does, because they’re not allowed to be trans women if they are women with women-type bodies, because that’s…appropriative of the identities of transfemme people? But it’s not appropriative of the identities of women for men to be trans women. Why? Why is it ok for trans people to appropriate the identities of everyone but not ok for people in general? What rule is that?
Also, what are “transfemme people”? What does that mean? “Femme” used to describe lesbians and gay men who played the girly role, but what is “transfemme”? It can’t be the same as trans woman because that means trans woman, so…what, it means a straight person of either sex who…no, I can’t figure it out. It can’t be “puts on a skirt” or similar because that would just be “femme.” And why is “lesbian dad” both trans and lesbian but not a trans lesbian?
You see what I mean; the technicality is mind-boggling.
if they legit see themselves as both agender and a woman though a way to express that without appropriating trans women’s identities would be nonbinary woman.
— fagdyke friday (@bigdoggenergy) April 5, 2019
If they legit see themselves as both agender and a woman? Legit???? Isn’t that the worst crime of all, doubting the legit of somebody’s stated identity? How dare lesbian dad qualify people who see themselves as a logical contradiction, both agender and a woman? How can lesbian dad question their lived experience that way? Is it because lesbian dad has all the technical knowledge at herhisherhisherhis fingertips?
People are allowed to self define but your self definition can impact others and so should be done with care not to harm marginalized groups. At this point I’m decently sure you’re just trolling, because saying you’re a woman because you’re female fits much more as a terf talking
— fagdyke friday (@bigdoggenergy) April 5, 2019
Aw, was that really a pesky woman trolling lesbian dad with all his technical knowledge? Just sad.
“How can lesbian dad question their lived experience that way?”
That’s some literal violence right there.
Also, if I were to refer to “lesbian dad” as a father, would that be misgendering, um, them?
So now if someone born female, with a female body, calls herself a woman, it’s like a TERF talking? Or is it only like a TERF talking if she identifies as female because she has a female body? I’m getting confused here. I think we need some sort of taxonomic key to those who are allowed to define their own identity and those who are not allowed to define their own identity. I suspect I am probably among those not allowed to define my own identity because I had the immense privilege of being born female and getting to be bullied and abused without having to change my gender to enjoy all that.
Maybe Pliny the In Between could make us a Venn diagram, although two dimensions probably wouldn’t be enough.
Wow. So “saying you’re a woman because you’re female” = TERF? Thanks for the clarification. Oh, and congratulations on successful colonization/appropriation/squatting/whatever of femaleness and womanhood. I guess that just about wraps it up for women who are just female. Game over. Turn out the lights, take down the tent and roll up the sidewalk. Time to go find a new word for yourselves, which will in time no doubt, be taken over and taken from you in turn again.
Funny how some people worried about mankind being replaced by computers or robots. Here we have female women being supplanted by female “identifying” men. Whoda thunk?
I’m not certain there is any sense to be untangled from this idiocy.
I kind of want to put that as my twitter profile quote, but I have no doubt at all that hardly anyone would spot that I was, in fact, trolling.
You couldn’t actually just make this shit up, could you?
@Rob:
I taught postgrad courses in logic for 15 years and I for one can’t untangle this bollocks.
So that is the reason why all irony meters on earth exploded yesterday.
Sonderval – yes, my irony meter had a total meltdown. I’ll never coax it back into service. Hope I can manage until the new one arrives. Amazon has them on backorder right now.
Rob, #7; that’s the problem, though. They’re making this shit up on the fly.
Mesmerism and phrenology were never this noisy, were they?
That’s right, they didn’t have FB or Twitter.