It’s all about Sam Harris’s reputation
So, as you’ve probably seen already via comments, Sam Harris retorted to Ezra Klein’s Vox piece yesterday. He retorted in his usual prickly, self-righteous, mind-blind, egomaniacal way.
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/978766308643778560
Most of the (nearly 900 so far) replies to that tweet point out that he doesn’t come across as well in that piece as he clearly thinks he does. Did I mention mind-blind? Yes I did. He reminds me of Trump in his helpless inability to perceive his own presentation of self from the point of view of not-SamHarris.
https://twitter.com/jtjoelson/status/978777659307151363
Exactly so. He’s always done that though – this isn’t some new thing. Remember that time he tried to make Chomsky do a dialogue with him? And posted their email exchange as if it would show what a putz Chomsky had been and it simply showed what a putz he, Harris, had been? This is like that.
So, on to his response:
In April of 2017, I published a podcast with Charles Murray, coauthor of the controversial (and endlessly misrepresented) book The Bell Curve. These are the most provocative claims in the book:
- Human “general intelligence” is a scientifically valid concept.
- IQ tests do a pretty good job of measuring it.
- A person’s IQ is highly predictive of his/her success in life.
- Mean IQ differs across populations (blacks < whites < Asians).
- It isn’t known to what degree differences in IQ are genetically determined, but it seems safe to say that genes play a role (and also safe to say that environment does too).
At the time Murray wrote The Bell Curve, these claims were not scientifically controversial—though taken together, they proved devastating to his reputation among nonscientists.
That would leave most readers with the impression that Murray is a scientist, presumably one who specializes in whatever fields those are that agree with the claim “human ‘general intelligence’ is a scientifically valid concept.” But he’s not. His PhD is in political science. Ok so he’s a social scientist but that’s not how Harris is using “scientifically” in that passage. Harris is implying that Murray is a neuroscientist or intelligence scientist or cognition scientist of some kind, a white coat scientist, a lab scientist, a hard scientist – not a political scientist. In particular “they proved devastating to his reputation among nonscientists” implies that Murray is hot shit to real scientists, the ones who know everything there is to know about brains.
At the time Murray wrote The Bell Curve, these claims were not scientifically controversial—though taken together, they proved devastating to his reputation among nonscientists. That remains the case today. When I spoke with Murray last year, he had just been de-platformed at Middlebury College, a quarter century after his book was first published, and his host had been physically assaulted while leaving the hall. So I decided to invite him on my podcast to discuss the episode, along with the mischaracterizations of his research that gave rise to it.
That “so” doesn’t do the work he wants it to. There is no “so” there. De-platforming is not automatically a reason to invite people onto one’s podcast. It depends. It could be the case that the ruckus at Middlebury was outrageous and that there’s no particular reason to boost Murray’s fame. Murray has a niche at the American Enterprise Institute, so he’s ok. The naughty lefties haven’t pushed him out into the snow to die while clutching his little box of matches.
Needless to say, I knew that having a friendly conversation with Murray might draw some fire my way. But that was, in part, the point. Given the viciousness with which he continues to be scapegoated—and, indeed, my own careful avoidance of him up to that moment—I felt a moral imperative to provide him some cover.
But that’s what doesn’t follow. Viciousness is, broadly speaking, wrong, but it doesn’t follow that everyone who meets vicious opposition is deserving of “some cover.”
In the aftermath of our conversation, many people have sought to paint me as a racist—but few have tried quite so hard as Ezra Klein, editor in chief of Vox. In response to my podcast, Klein published a disingenuous hit piece that pretended to represent the scientific consensus on human intelligence while vilifying me as, at best, Murray’s dupe. More likely, readers unfamiliar with my work came away believing that I’m a racist pseudoscientist in my own right.
How interesting that Harris puts that in such a misleading way – that he makes it look as if Ezra Klein wrote a hit piece on him. “Published” can be just another way of saying “posted” or “wrote” or “issued” in the world of online writing and publishing. Funny how Harris forgot to remind us that Klein is an editor at Vox, and to mention the actual authors of the “hit piece” – Eric Turkheimer, Kathryn Paige Harden, and Richard E. Nisbett, actual researchers in the field.
What do they say?
In an episode that runs nearly two and a half hours, Harris, who is best known as the author of The End of Faith, presents Murray as a victim of “a politically correct moral panic” — and goes so far as to say that Murray has no intellectually honest academic critics. Murray’s work on The Bell Curve, Harris insists, merely summarizes the consensus of experts on the subject of intelligence.
The consensus, he says, is that IQ exists; that it is extraordinarily important to life outcomes of all sorts; that it is largely heritable; and that we don’t know of any interventions that can improve the part that is not heritable. The consensus also includes the observation that the IQs of black Americans are lower, on average, than that of whites, and — most contentiously — that this and other differences among racial groups is based at least in part in genetics.
Harris is not a neutral presence in the interview. “For better or worse, these are all facts,” he tells his listeners. “In fact, there is almost nothing in psychological science for which there is more evidence than for these claims.” Harris belies his self-presentation as a tough-minded skeptic by failing to ask Murray a single challenging question. Instead, during their lengthy conversation, he passively follows Murray to the dangerous and unwarranted conclusion that black and Hispanic people in the US are almost certainly genetically disposed to have lower IQ scores on average than whites or Asians — and that the IQ difference also explains differences in life outcomes between different ethnic and racial groups.
In Harris’s view, all of this is simply beyond dispute. Murray’s claims about race and intelligence, however, do not stand up to serious critical or empirical examination. But the main point of this brief piece is not merely to rebut Murray’s conclusions per se — although we will do some of that — but rather to consider the faulty path by which he casually proceeds from a few basic premises to the inflammatory conclusion that IQ differences between groups are likely to be at least partly based on inborn genetic differences. These conclusions, Harris and Murray insist, are disputed only by head-in-the-sand elitists afraid of the policy implications.
But that’s not true, and they explain why, showing their work as they do. It’s not really about Harris, in fact, it’s about Murray’s claims and what is wrong with them. Yet to Harris it’s a “hit piece” about him, and Klein published it at Vox (did he?) for the clicks:
After Klein published that article, and amplified its effects on social media, I reached out to him in the hope of appealing to his editorial conscience. I found none. The ethic that governs Klein’s brand of journalism appears to be: Accuse a person with a large platform of something terrible, and then monetize the resulting controversy. If he complains, invite him to respond in your magazine so that he will drive his audience your way and you can further profit from his doomed effort to undo the damage you’ve done to his reputation.
It’s all about Harris’s reputation. It’s not at all about the harm that can be done by peddling bad false wrong claims about race and intelligence, it’s simply about Harris’s reputation.
So he published their email exchange without permission.
This is incredibly tiresome, tedious, and counterproductive on Sam Harris’s part. It’s like he just fell whole hog into the ‘if they hate me that must mean I’m right’ fallacy, which is an attractive trap for any controversial person, and seems to be the endpoint of anyone who faces too much opprobrium, even if they started off at least somewhat nobly. But at this point he’s been sucked into his own cult of personality.
It’s honestly sad.
Aww, so Harris is just another harrising mendacious copyright leech. SAD.
(With an exaggerated IQ, no doubt) ALSOSAD.
SAD, sam.
Well, he’s certainly turned it into something about his reputation. He hasn’t done himself any favours, either. Harris’s own choice to host Murray and his uncritical, sub-skeptical acceptance of unwarranted conclusions that look a lot like good old-fashioned racism do not look good. Welcome to the race version of the Estrogen Vibe. Add to that the above noted mischaracterization of the article looking at Murray’s work and it gets worse. Once again he has forgotten the First Rule of Holes. If this is the hill he wants to die on, so be it.
“A hole on the hill,
the man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still”
Ap’s to JL&PMcC
It’s *amazing* that Harris thinks he comes off well in those emails.
Donning-Kruger? Selective IQ bias? Generally selectively SMRT?
“It’s *amazing* that Harris thinks he comes off well in those emails.”
Maybe he’s jealous of Jordan Peterson’s claim to the title of The Stupid Man’s Smart Person. If he keeps this up, he’ll have a good shot of grabbing it for himself.
Normal people read that Harris-Klein email exchange and evaluate it on the basis of who is at least attempting to making good faith arguments for their position, who is trying to understand the other side’s position, who is being polite and refraining from assuming bad motives, etc.
But Harris seems to reason as follows:
1. It is indisputable that the Vox article was a false “hit job” on Harris (and Murray, but c’mon, we know who really matters here).
2. Harris is graciously offering Klein an opportunity to apologize publicly for this “hit job.”
3. Ezra Klein not only refuses to apologize publicly, or even privately, he insists on disputing the indisputable proposition 1.
4. Therefore, this email exchange will show that Harris is being gracious and Klein is being dishonest and arguing in bad faith.
It’s Harris’s utter inability to even contemplate the possibility that someone could disagree with him in good faith on this issue that leads him astray. Not, I might add, for the first time.
So like our own dear Donald, isn’t he?
Heh. Amanda Marcotte tweeted:
“The ability of a hilariously inept lightweight like @SamHarrisOrg to keep getting taken seriously is a testament to the power of white male privilege. The man is a honking moron, and it’s obvious. And yet. And yet.”
Ophelia @9,
I don’t know. I go back-and-forth on this, but I lean towards the idea of Trump as bullshitter: he doesn’t really care about the truth for the most part, he’s happy to knowingly impose false facts on you because it will show how powerful and manly he is.
Harris, on the other hand, honestly believes what he’s saying for the most part.
I meant specifically the “It’s Harris’s utter inability to even contemplate the possibility that someone could disagree with him in good faith on this issue that leads him astray” part. The theory of mind problem.
Wow. I don’t think Harris is anything close to “a honking moron”, but he does not come across well here.
He’s now added an update to the top of his email dump:
Geez, you think?
But he goes on to explain that the problem is people are too stupid to see he’s right:
Follow the plot, morons!
Yikes.
He says more, eventually taking his ball and going home. That’s probably for the best.
Well, I think that’ll be enough to justify getting rid of The End of Faith
Oh good god.
He was relying on readers to see it exactly as he sees it and to notice what he thinks he noticed and to realize that Ezra’s politeness was just a cunning disguise for his deep [something something]. It’s all so frustrating!
Convenient! This way nobody need trouble themselves with doing anything about racial inequalitiy, we can claim that they earned their way to the bottom of the pile and can resume ignoring them.
Omigodomigod –
Meaning, in a way that disadvantages his side of the argument. The asymmetry of power, of generations of the most literal forms of oppression, of education and wealth and opportunities and so on – no he doesn’t mean that, he means the asymmetry whereby it’s not cool to keep insisting that WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE SMARTEST. That asymmetry.
Ah yes. The way both tragedy and comedy work, well the best of them anyway, is through the gap between expectation and outcome. Which is why a theatrical genius like Charlie Chaplin could in an instant shift his audience from laughter to tears.
Harris appears to me to be an intelligent man. But his idea of how he appears to the world in general, which appears to be his ultimate target audience, is somewhat at variance from reality.
I might agree, except that true intelligence lies in knowing what you don’t know, and it’s obvious that Harris doesn’t fall in that group. To assume you have all the answers, or even to think you know all the questions, is to follow yourself down a rabbit hole so deep that you don’t even realize you’re in a hole. You think you are alone in the universe, a person able to see what no one else can. And while I do think there are times that there are things someone sees that others have not, that isn’t what’s happening here. He’s seeing things that are not, like him being someone oppressed, like Charles Murray somehow being squashed, in spite of the very loud megaphone that both of them are carrying and shouting into at every opportunity.
Does he realize how Trumpish using the word “fake” that way makes him sound?
“I might agree, except that true intelligence lies in knowing what you don’t know…”
But, but, it is indisputable that Harris has a high IQ!
I don’t know why Harris should try to defend Murray. In the podcast from 2017 Harris asks Murray, “Why bother?” Murray’s response was basically because it will affect public policies that will help society. I am wholly unconvinced knowing a role genetics may play in IQ would help policy.
really intelligent people drink and drive. Really intelligent people think owning guns is a good thing. Really intelligent people would like to restrict women’s rights. We all have to walk slower because of everyone, not just purportedly less intelligent people….regardless of race or gender.
It’s funny about the intelligent v honking moron issue. Clearly he is highly intelligent in some narrow, even stunted sense…but the stuntedness is so extreme and in such a crucial place that it makes him weirdly stupid about things that seem obvious to the rest of us.
Re his intelligence–sure, he’s not truly unintelligent. But the gap between his self-assessment and the reality is so wide, it highlights his relative stupidity for all (excepting his fans) to see.
I agree that Harris has not come out well from this feud with Klein and Vox, but there is really no basis to claim that he is not intelligent because of these missteps. You might point to his similar public feud with Noam Chomsky and conclude that Harris must have a blind spot for situations where his integrity is being questioned…but that hardly indicates “lack of intelligence.” Harris is generally a very insightful and logically-minded person, and I am happy to forgive him for this imperfection in his character.
Also, any suggestion that he is like Donald Trump (in almost any respect) is just laughable…
Well, I said clearly he is highly intelligent in some narrow, even stunted sense, so I didn’t accuse him of a general lack of intelligence. But I said his intelligence is stunted – which is not the same as being altogether lacking. I don’t agree that he is generally very insightful, and I think he can often be downright dense.
And you can say it’s laughable to compare his blindness to other minds to Trump’s all you like, but I think it’s quite similar. That doesn’t make him like Trump overall, but his striking inability to see that outsiders might take a different view of his emails to Klein from the view he takes is exactly like Trump’s parallel inability.
Sam Harris did not know what he was talking about. He demonstrated such a superficial acquaintance with the topic that made him look asinine or a racist. For him, and those who thought he proved anything other than being a douche, I strongly recommend that you read Ned Block’s critique of the Bell Curve:
https://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/faculty/block/papers/Heritability.html
There you will find that what Sam Harris took on face value was nothing more than a shoddy con job appealing to to his prejudice-conscious or otherwise. This is one area that Harris has both feet firmly implanted in his mouth