How much more attention do they want?
Nathan Robinson on the silenced chatterers, the suppressed best-sellers, the censored columnists and podcasters so bravely championed by Bari Weiss in the Times.
Weiss uses the nation’s paper of record to introduce audiences to a group of people whose voices are supposedly being kept out of mainstream institutions, but who for some reason I seem to hear about all the damn time.
The “intellectual dark web” is neither on the dark web nor comprised of intellectuals. It is a phrase coined by one of Peter Thiel’s deputies to describe a group of people who share the following traits in common: (1) they are bitter about and feel persecuted by Leftist Social Justice Identity Politics, which they think is silencing important truths and (2) they inhabit the internet, disseminating their opinions through podcasts, YouTube, Patreon, etc. The group includes: Eric Weinstein, the aforementioned Thiel subordinate; vacuous charlatan Jordan Peterson; cool kids’ philosopher Ben Shapiro; deferential interview host Dave Rubin; ex-neuroscientist Sam Harris; former Man Show host Joe Rogan; American Enterprise Institute scholar Christina Hoff Sommers; and former Evergreen State University professors Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying.
Nice choice of epithets; I particularly like “vacuous charlatan” for the so very not silenced Jordan P.
In fact, all of the persecuted intellectuals appear constantly in major outlets with huge reach. Whether it’s Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson appearing on HBO’s Real Time, Christina Hoff Sommers writing for Slate, The Atlantic, and the New York Times, Milo going on CNN, Bret Weinstein being interviewed on FOX News, Andrew Sullivan being racistin New York magazine, Peterson getting invited on the NBC Nightly News, or Ben Shapiro being profiled in the New York Times, not one of these individuals ever seems to lack for a mainstream perch from which to squawk. It’s a strange kind of oppression in which silenced dissidents keep getting book deals, op-eds, sold-out speaking tours, lucrative Patreons, millions of YouTube views, and sympathetic profiles in the world’s leading newspapers. How much more attention do they want? How much freer can speech be? Weiss’ article itself pushes the absurdity to its limits. It features half a dozen staged photographs of its subjects moodily lurking amidst topiaries, and is the longest piece yet in Weiss’ ongoingseries on the illiberalism and repressiveness of the left. As one commenter put it, Weiss’ argument is “that unseen forces are preventing her and those like her from making the exact arguments that she’s making, right now, in the exact venue where she’s making them, right now.”
Bari Weiss' entire schtick is pretending that unseen forces are preventing her and those like her from making the exact arguments that she's making, right now, in the exact venue where she's making them, right now https://t.co/i3LdocWzSg
— Stephen Silver (@StephenSilver) May 8, 2018
The members of the Intellectual Dark Web are attacked, supposedly, for their “ideas,” which they are eager to discuss “civilly” but which the left will not debate because it hates rational discourse. It’s a strange definition of civility, though. Shapiro’s speeches contain such civil remarks as “you can all go to hell, you pathetic, lying, stupid jackasses,” and he has repeatedly made vile racist remarks about Arabs. Peterson, when criticized in the New York Review of Books, did not respond with an extended rebuttal, but by calling the writer a “son of a bitch” and a “sanctimonious prick” on Twitter, and threatening to slap him in the face. (Not the first time that criticism has caused genteel conservative “civility” to give way to threats of violence.) Sam Harris goes from cool reason to angry denunciation and accusations of bad faith when people dare to suggest to him that Charles Murray is a racist. For men who care about facts, they sure have a lot of feelings!
See also: Michael Shermer. He wrote a multi-page article in response to my brief (however damning) mention of him (part of a single paragraph) in Free Inquiry. Then he wrote another even longer one at eSkeptic; both were full of angry denunciation and accusations of bad faith – because I mentioned something he said on camera.
Here’s another reason why I’m skeptical that our national Martyrs for Free Speech and Rational Debate are interested in actually debating ideas: I’ve tried to get them to do it. I wrote a long explanation of why I thought Ben Shapiro’s logic was poor and his moral principles heinous. Shapiro mentioned me when we both gave speeches at the University of Connecticut. Did he rebut my case? No. He said he hadn’t heard of me and that my crowd was smaller than his. (I admit to being obscure and unpopular, but I’d ask what that says about which speech is mainstream and which is marginal.) When I wrote about Charles Murray, explaining in 7,000 words why I think his work is bigoted, Murray dismissed it with a tweet. When I wrote 10,000 words meticulously dissecting Jordan Peterson’s laughable body of work, Peterson responded with about three tweets, one misunderstanding a joke and anotherusing fallacious reasoning. (See if you can spot it!) The wonderful ContraPoints recorded a highly intelligent 30-minute explanation of why Peterson is wrong. Peterson’s only reply: “No comment.” So much for wanting a debate with the left.
Not that left. The other left. The one that’s on the third bench from the corner every other Wednesday at 4 a.m., unless it misses the bus.
We can also tell how little they care about serious debate from their total refusal to rationally engage with advocates of the social justice/ identity politics position that so horrifies them. In his debate with Sam Harris, Ezra Klein made an important observation: in 120 episodes, Harris had only ever had two African American guests. Harris then replied that he had had former Reagan administration official Glenn Loury on specifically to discuss racism, but suggested that he chose Loury specifically because he wanted someone who didn’t hold the views Harris disdains. That’s so often the case with critics of social justice: I pointed out recently that when David Brooks attempted to “engage” with the campus activist position, he didn’t do so by reading a book or speaking to an actual human being, but by inventing an imaginary caricature in his head and then arguing with it.
That’s why they pay him the big bucks.
H/t Screechy Monkey
The name “Intellectual Dark Web” itself is idiotic. The actual Dark Web is composed of sites that *want* to keep a low profile, generally because they’re doing something of dubious legality. This bunch wants exactly the opposite, and they seem to be succeeding quite well. What whiny hypocrites.
I think this H/T goes to Screechy Monkey, Ophelia!
Anyone who didn’t like Weiss’s article is just a triggered lefties, according to one of the foremost twitter intellectuals of the anti-SJW persuasion I follow. (No, I’m not joking about either clause. He [of course it’s a he, right?] even unironically uses a picture of Christopher Hitchens as his avatar.)
Revolutionary Left Radio did an episode on Pinker, Peterson, and Harris not that long ago (April). One point that really stuck out for me was the interviewee comparing Peterson’s writing to newspaper horoscopes. Anyway, if you all are interested, the episode is available on iTunes (title: “Deconstructing Liberal Intellectuals: Peterson, Harris, and Pinker”), and it is also available on line, here.
I suspect that Jerry Coyne, who grows increasingly silly with age and is attracting a pretty odd set of commentators nowadays, would agree with Seth’s ‘foremost twitter intellectual’. He has a mildly critical piece about Bari SWeiss’s piece but basically approves because it attacks the ‘anti-authoritarian left.’
This is so true. I have known so many situations (these big time situations, and small things in my own community, even my own circle) where someone says something rather nasty or obnoxious, then explains “I only want to start a conversation”. When you take them at their word, and try to start a conversation, they get all offended, all huffy, all “well, I never”, and complain that they are being silenced. You disagreed with them! That isn’t starting a conversation! That is shutting them up!
No, they don’t want a conversation, a debate, a dialogue, or anything else that might involve the other side getting to have their say. They want to pontificate, to preach, to posture, and to point out. They want you to listen to them with awe and wonder at their amazing brilliance, their boldness in saying something so outrageous, so controversial, that people have been saying it for two millennia without negative consequences, and getting policy implemented based on the oh, so brave and controversial things they are saying.
Forgive me while I go off somewhere to be nauseous.
But Iknklast, that is a conversation. I mean, you don’t expect to actually take part do you? I mean liberal woman and all that, it’s not really your place to have an opinion or be listened to…
I’ll join you at the vomitorium.