Donnie and Piers
Trump talks to Piers Morgan for the Daily Mail after his meeting with Brenda:
‘Did you get the feeling she liked you?”
‘Well I don’t want to speak for her, but I can tell you I liked her. So usually that helps. But I liked her a lot.’
‘What were her opening words?’
‘Um, “Welcome”. Just “Welcome”. Just very elegant. And very beautiful. It was really something special.’
‘Did you mention your mother?’
‘I did, I said: “You know, my mother was your big fan. She was born in Stornaway in The Hebrides. And that’s very serious Scotland as you know, there’s no doubt about that.’”
Ah, nice of him to explain about serious Scotland.
Trump revealed the Queen told him the names of all the presidents she had met. ‘Harry Truman was the first president that she got to meet and know, and she went through a whole list. It was a very nice moment, Piers, very nice.’
An easy way to burn up the time.
I asked if they’d discussed Brexit.
‘I did. She said it’s a very – and she’s right – it’s a very complex problem, I think nobody had any idea how complex that was going to be…Everyone thought it was going to be ‘Oh it’s simple, we join or don’t join, or let’s see what happens..’
No, nobody thought that. Nobody. Only Trump is stupid enough to think that, and he thinks it about everything. “Who knew health care was so complicated?” Everyone. Absolutely everyone.
‘When you got in Marine One afterwards with Melania and you talked about what you just experienced with the Queen, it must have been, even for a tough guy like you, quite an emotional thing?
‘It is. To have that meeting I think was really great. We met, but also watching the guard, hearing the sounds, being in that place, that very special place. it was very special there’s no question about that.’
Top special. Top peak high special.
They talked about Brexit and trade.
‘The sceptic in me would say: ‘What is the incentive for America to do a great deal with the United Kingdom?”
‘We would make a great deal with the United Kingdom because they have product that we like. I mean they have a lot of great product. They make phenomenal things, you know, and you have different names – you can say “England”, you can say “UK”, you can say “United Kingdom” so many different – you know you have, you have so many different names – Great Britain. I always say: “Which one do you prefer? Great Britain? You understand what I’m saying?’
‘You know Great Britain and the United Kingdom aren’t exactly the same thing?’
‘Right, yeah. You know I know, but a lot of people don’t know that. But you have lots of different names. The fact is you make great product, you make great things. Even your farm product is so fantastic.’
And that’s not a conversation with little Donny in the first grade, that’s a conversation with the president.
I pressed him on his ‘culture’ comment: ‘People were surprised you said that because America of course was built on immigration. The great culture of America is that it’s full of immigrants. So why do you not think it can work in Europe?’
‘I think it depends where they are,’ he replied. ‘Who they are, educational levels, work levels, I think it depends on a lot of things. I just see what’s happening, the crime is through the roof in some places that have never had crime.’
I think it’s clear what “things” he means.
There’s more, but I’ll spare you.
Donnie has no clue what “product” they make. If pressed, I doubt he could name one thing (maybe English muffins…)
He had no idea UK and Great Britain were different. Not at all. He just pretends he does, and then puts it off on other people not knowing. Like, maybe you don’t know, and I don’t know, but Donnie? He knows. He was just saying that to humor people like Ophelia and iknklast, who don’t know that.
@iknklast – English muffins aren’t English I don’t think. I seem to remember them being sold as American muffins, if at all. I’ve always wondered if English muffins were an attempt to make crumpets that went wrong.
The product thing really makes me cross. I try not to let Trump make me cross because I’m powerless to do anything but seethe and complain. And I am hardly the most patriotic Brit out there. But listening to him blahing on about our ‘product’ like he has any fucking idea what we produce isn’t even the most egregious thing, it’s the fact that he thinks that’s the measure of a country’s greatness. There are things I’m proud of (our sense of humor and our love of puncturing pomposity being the two I’m most proud of right now) but not a single Brit would say that the things we manufacture are a significant part of our national identity.
It’s clear to me that Trump has no idea that the immigration he’s enjoying railing against in the UK is mostly from other parts of Europe, especially the Balkans and ex-Soviet bloc countries. The brown and black people he pretends not to despise are mostly all British born and bred. And unfortunately, the racist fucks who voted for Brexit and now shout vile slurs at my friends don’t seem to understand that Brexit won’t make much difference to the number of people of color living in the country.
Ugh. Sorry, this whole Brexit thing makes me so miserable and angry. We’re losing so much, especially young people, and we’re going to get nothing good in return. And having Donald Trump flounce around the countryside like a fucking fart at a funeral and proclaim it’s awesomeness despite not knowing a single sodding thing about it is making me crazy. So I have to hope that the Democrats get their shit together in November because if they don’t, I don’t know how I’m going to cope with several more years of this godawful dumbfuckery.
Did ‘from’ fall off the back of that sentence?
Yeah. That was meant to be sarcastic. Guess that wasn’t obvious, huh?
I am at the point where I think media outlets should just ignore Donald. Just don’t report on him. He’s either being incomprehensible or racist.
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/ive-met-some-dickheads-in-my-time-but-wow-says-queen-20180714175334
@iknklast Sorry. I need to get my sarcasm-meter checked. :-D
@learie All well and good when he was just an annoying feckless celebrity making crappy TV. But he’s the POTUS, whether we like it or not, whether his election was even legitimate or not, that’s where we are now. So ignoring him really doesn’t strike me as a viable option. If other countries are changing their positions on the US because of Trump, we need to know that. If you’re a US citizen and you travel, you’re going to be held accountable for the awful shit that pours out of his mouth, even if you think that’s unfair. His Twitter diplomacy could get us all killed because even if the US media ignored him (apart from state TV station Fox News), you can be damn sure the rest of the world media won’t ignore him.
But, OK, let’s say we managed to convince everyone to just not report on him. How do you think that would go down with his giant ego? Narcissists are dangerous for many reasons, but one of them is they cannot bear to be ignored and will act out in increasingly wild and reckless ways until you have no choice but to pay attention. You think Trump wouldn’t issue the order to nuke Iran (or whoever he’d decided was his personal bogeyman du jour) if he felt too deprived of the attention he needs?
I don’t like it, but the time to ignore him was 2 years ago when he floated down a golden escalator like a racist balloon of self-aggrandizing and unrestrained id. It’s too late now, he’s gotten the power he decided he wanted. All you can do now if you’re a citizen is engage democratically. If you’re a non-citizen resident like me, you have to pay attention because you’re on the potential bogeyman list too. And if you’re in another country, unless you’re in one of those lovely pseudo-democratic authoritarian countries that has a leader Trump likes, you’re also on the bubble.
Ignorance isn’t bliss, even if it might seem that way.