A lot of women have become detached from reality
And then there’s this guy, via David Futrelle at We Hunted the Mammoth:
People make is sound as if the “Incel Rebellion” is a laughing matter and that people don’t understand problem.
The incels are not the problem, but rather they are a symptom that something is very wrong in our society — and unless their legitimate grievances are addressed this could very soon spiral out of control just like what happened in Iraq, Libya and Syria when their respective governments refused to address and deal with the legitimate grievances a portion of their popolation had.
Calling the Incels a bunch of virgins and “frustrated losers with communication skills equal to that of an autistic potato” is oversimplifying the problem yes they are all that but why are they frustrated virgins?
The real issue is that with the advancement of makeup, healthy at any size bullshit, feminism and through social engineering a lot of women have become detached from reality. The reason these Incels arn’t getting laid is because women with a sexual market value equal to theirs use makeup to go from a 3/10 – 7/10 (false marketing in my opinion and should be a punishable offense) to fuck with men above their league.
Ohhhhhhhh of course, that’s it. How could we have been so blind.
But wait a second – if that’s the problem, why don’t men just do the same thing? Slather on the makeup and be an incel no more. Really gob it on; women love that.
So I propose that rather than making Incels look bad we look at the reasons they’ve become this way and what steps we can take to deconflict and reverse things because, let’s be real calling them names, labeling them a terrorist organization etc isn’t going to make the problem go away.
There are several ways I propose we do this:
1) Women are no longer allowed to wear makeup, ie falsely advertise their beauty and hence stop them from banging guys above their league.
2) Women are only allowed to date men with equal sexual market value to them. State-mandated tests should be made and everyone get a sexual-market value card ranging from 1/10 to 10/10, like an ID card.
And the tests would be designed by…drum roll please…
Jordan Peterson? James Damore? Robin Hanson?
Kevin Williamson? Theo Beale, aka Vox Day (aptly acronymed as VD)? Camille Paglia?
nAH, TESTS SHOULD BE DESIGNED BY MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Seriously, just WTF is wrong with these people? Incels won’t want to have sex with women without makeup. Their problem isn’t that women won’t have sex with them, their problem is that certain women, those deemed most attractive, won’t have sex with them. Now, I know that attraction is more than physical appearance, but these tossers equate attractiveness with the almost porn star look of glamour, the cover girls, the super models.
I do not think that I am god’s gift to women, I don’t think I am the most attractive man on earth, yet have have never lacked in the sex department. I am overweight, I am not wealthy, although at times I have been comfortable. What I do have, and seem to have in abundance, is a consideration of the other in a relationship, a default setting of two equals coming together, a desire to please my partner, and not just sexually, but romantically, playfully, and doing things as a couple that we both enjoy. Sometimes I will even put my needs second, I know, what a horror. :-)
It isn’t hard to find a partner when you behave as though no one is yours by right, that each person has autonomous decision making, and women, IMHO, seem to be most attracted to men who are unselfish, considerate, and nice to be around.
In the high and far off times, noblemen rode horses and the peasants walked. Aristocrats who suffered reduced circumstances could sink so far that they had no horse and then they had to deal with the utter mortification of walking. Like a peasant.
That’s what it is with these turds. They figure they’re high born (i.e. males) and the world owes them the markers of their status, like
horseswomen.If they wanted actual sex they could do any number of things to meet women. Join a crossfit gym, or a yoga class (wall-to-wall women!), go hiking with a group, walk their dogs in parks. They don’t. They don’t want sex. They want body slaves as markers of their caste.
As Roj says, “women, IMHO, seem to be most attracted to men who are unselfish, considerate, and nice to be around.” Kind of like men and the sorts of women they prefer, isn’t it? It’s not too hard to understand, if you’re actually looking for a partner instead of a notched bed post.
I rewatched the movie “Taxi Driver” recently, and boy do these so-called incels remind me of Travis Bickle in that movie. One difference though is that while Travis was an isolated loner, these days there are whole online communities of Travis Bickles, where they can egg each other on and reinforce their view of the world.
“… legitimate grievances…”
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE, BUB. You don’t get to skate past this part. Just exactly who is it that’s detached from reality? Before you go on to ban cosmetics and establish some sort of Commission of Sexual Market Value, you have to clearly state what you think their exact grievance is and what makes it legitimate. I’d like a million dollars and a pony; is that a “legitimate grievance?” Is it incumbent on the rest of society to see to it that my monetary and equine desires are met? Is it “legitimate” for me to threaten violence if they are not? These guys think they are being denied something that is their right. Sorry, no. It might be a “grievance” but it ain’t legitimate and there’s nothing anyone else is required to do to rectify this. It’s not some sort of injustice that these guys can’t get laid. It’s a misplaced sense of entitlement to somebody else’s body. That’s a much higher degree of delusional entitlement than my desire for a million bucks and a horsey. It’s a demand for compulsory organ donation. Looked at in this way, this demands can be seen as part of the same continuum of thought as the forced birth movement; same organs, different unwanted tenant. Women apparently have no right to refuse either invasion.
This would be hilariously funny if the bare naked hatred of women wasn’t so apparent and frightening.
These men don’t believe women are human beings with rights.
Women have sex when they don’t want to all the time. These men must be powerfully scary.
Just imagine getting into a conversation with one of them. You’d be backing away slowly with your hand on your phone ready to call the emergency number for the police within ten minutes.
What Not Bruce said. The only “legitimate grievance” here is the one against entitled assholes who think the world owes them “access” to women’s bodies.
I had to laugh when I saw that that in the middle of all the psycho rules for women there’s an endorsement of exercise:
I actually think the whole thing is a parody of incel whining, where someone took it to an intentionally ridiculous conclusion, especially since it just popped up on social media with no known original source. But who knows.
Skeletor;
Even if it IS a parody. It will find an audience that laps it up seriously.
More or less what not Bruce said, but also – if they think the whole issue is down to cosmetics couldn’t they, you know, wear some themselves?
I mean if they think that is really the problem, and not the fact that they actually despise women…
Why did you put Jordan Peterson and James damore in the same catagory as who wrote this drivel?