Suspect sought
It’s almost as if assault is actually a crime.
Three suspects are being sought by police after a woman was punched and kicked during a brawl between transgender activists and radical feminists.
The 60-year-old victim was punched in the face, knocked to the ground and kicked after one of the suspects tried to grab her camera as she was filming at a gender recognition talk, the Metropolitan police said.
Officers are trying to trace a man and two others, who are believed to be transgender, over the attack at around 9.30pm on Wednesday 13 September at Speakers’ Corner in Hyde Park.
Those three.
“Brawl between”? There was no brawl between. Trans activists attacked a woman.
(It’s good the attack is being taken seriously, however weaselly the Guardian’s framing.)
What’s a piddly pesky prudish WOMAN when compared to the thrill of punching Nazis? Don’t let your uteri get in the way of these people’s grand historical narrative unless you want them to get punched.
Punching women is the new punching women.
One of the crowd over at FTB was claiming that the TERF deserved it because she was choking a trans person – as in seriously choking them – and that it was self defence as CLEARLY seen in the video. I squinted and squinted, but couldn’t see that…
The coverage that event got from Siobhan was truly remarkable – just a total inversion of reality.
Wow Rob, you still wade into that toxic den of iniquity? You’re made of sterner stuff…
Wade, noooooooo. I went back recently to dip my toe into Mano’s blog for the first time in many many months and happened to see a side bar to a post by someone else on the speakers corner debacle. As Holms says, somewhat politely, truly remarkable. I’ve popped back a couple more times since to see if I was wrong and just hit a bad week to visit. Nope.
FTB is a sad shadow of its former self frankly. By alienating or shouting down the very large middle ground who frequented FTB, they’ve actually turned themselves into the nonsensical echo chamber that the slymers always claimed they were. Don’t get me wrong, the slymers are still arseholes and wrong as a stopped clock, but FTB is no longer a place of debate and learning. That makes it both uninteresting and irrelevant.
Excepting Mano and, strangely, the resident men’s issues advocate: Ally Fogg. It’s just a shame that while he is very sober and reasonable, the subject matter does tend to attract MRAs in the comments.
Ally always did seem to be a pretty reasonable bloke…
I’ve not set a digital footstep back on FtB’s servers since shortly after PZ threw Rebecca Tuvel under the bus. His only substantive comment on the matter was that we shouldn’t ever use the phrase ‘witch hunt’ as a metaphor, on account of the continuing practice in Africa (and elsewhere) of accusing people (especially women) of witchcraft in order to divest them of property or tribal political clout. This was a cowardly dodge at least as intricate and hairsplitting as any theologian’s, and it broke the last of my hope that he and his fans might ever actually realise how unfree their thinking has become.
Then again, there are a great number of people who get run down by buses every year, so maybe “throwing X under the bus” should *also* be a verboten metaphor. Checkmate me, I guess.
Holms, thanks for reminding me about Ally. I stopped reading his blog, because although he often wrote interesting and thought provoking stuff, I spent too much time wanting scream at the comments.
Anyway, I went back and looked at the second to last post “#MeToo or #MenToo…” and enjoyed it. A brief relevant excerpt:
The comments just made me want to scream, again. I think Ally felt pretty frustrated as well.
@Holms et al.–thanks, have just read a couple of Ally Fogg’s pieces and they’re very good. I’ll keep an eye on his stuff.
Smug, self-righteous rage is truly ecumenical.
And why a six week delay before ‘seeking’ the thugs?
John, they’re just middle aged women and therefore boring; I’m slightly surprised and relieved the cops didn’t side with the trendy trans group.
Rob, #4. I also watched the video and somehow missed the choke-hold which, according to Siobhan, lasted for a minute and a half and included dragging her ‘victim’ around on concrete before a punch was thrown. I guess we must both be hyper-slow blinkers!
I didn’t realise that Siobhan was a mind-reader. She claimed that the ‘assaulted’ (wisp of a) student had grabbed the woman’s camera because the woman was using it to film the trans-activists for the sole intention of doxxing them. Her proof? Paul Elam used to operate a doxxing site aimed at women who’d harmed people, and a woman named Cathy Brennan ran a similar site aimed at trans-women who claimed to be lesbians (presumably without revealing their trans status until, well, revealing the surprise package). Both sites used photographs of their targets. Therefore, having a camera made Maria McLachlan guilty of planning to doxx those she photographed. In Siobhan’s own words;
I was surprised to learn from Siobhan that the venue where these events took place, Speakers Corner in London’s Hyde Park, was a ‘pricy private venue’ which can be booked for use only through ‘poncy private membership’!
So, yeah; a rather imaginative re-write of history, methinks.