Even though we had slavery
Roy Moore has a history of running his mouth.
In 2005, Moore was interviewed by journalist Bill Press. During that interview, he argued that homosexuality should be illegal.
“Homosexual conduct should be illegal, yes,” he told Press when asked about his views on a contemporaneous Supreme Court decision. At the time, nearly half the country agreed; his campaign has not clarified whether he still holds this position.
But grown men perving on 14-year-old girls – that’s just fine. Fresh meat is the best, am I right?
A year ago, after Donald Trump’s election, Moore was askedat an event whether he believed that Obama was born in the United States.
“My personal belief is that he wasn’t,” Moore replied, “but that’s probably over and done in a few days, unless we get something else to come along.”
But what is the source of a “personal belief” of that kind? The location of Obama’s birth is a straightforward factual matter, not a fuzzy opinion-based metaphysical view. It’s a yes or no, here or there; it’s not ambiguous. There are official records that state where he was born; “belief” doesn’t come into it, personal or impersonal.
No, the only reason to claim to have a “personal belief” that Obama wasn’t born in the US is malice of the racist variety. It’s both anti-rational and racist; win-win.
In August of this year, Moore was interviewed by the Guardian. CNN excerpted part of the discussion.
The interviewer noted that Ronald Reagan once said that the Soviet Union was the focus of evil in the modern world.
“You could say that very well about America, couldn’t you?” Moore replied.
“Do you think?” the interviewer replied.
“Well, we promote a lot of bad things,” Moore said. Asked for an example, Moore replied, “Like same-sex marriage.” It was Moore’s refusal to uphold the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision on same-sex marriage that led to his second ouster from Alabama’s court.
That’s a moral black hole right there; no light can escape. He thinks sex between consenting adults is “the focus of evil” and sexual creeping by an adult male on pubescent children is A-ok. And he’s a judge. He apparently has no sensitivity to the question of harm, and is guided only by his own internal Squick dial.
In September, Moore held a rally in Florence, Ala. One of the members of the audience, an African American, asked Moore when he thought America was last great.
“I think it was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery — they cared for one another,” Moore replied, according to the Los Angeles Times. “Our families were strong, our country had a direction.”
Well…mind you…slave families were not always united. Slave owners had a nasty habit of selling individual slaves away from their families.
When these comments resurfaced this week, many people noted that, in 2002, Republican Senate leader Trent Lott had made comments looking back favorably at the segregated South — which ended up costing him his position. Moore was looking back further, to a time before the Civil War, expressing that America was last great at a time when black people were enslaved.
Well he said even though. Be fair.
At Moore’s rally in Florence, he made other racially insensitive comments.
“Racially insensitive” is mediaese for “racist.”
“We were torn apart in the Civil War — brother against brother, North against South, party against party,” he said. “What changed?”
“Now we have blacks and whites fighting, reds and yellows fighting, Democrats and Republicans fighting, men and women fighting,” he continued. “What’s going to unite us? What’s going to bring us back together? A president? A Congress? No. It’s going to be God.”
Roy Moore’s god? Nope, that’s not going to work.
But he’ll probably be elected to the Senate next week.
sexual creeping by an adult male on pubescent female children is A-ok.
I wonder if he has stopped to think how much of that fighting is because of white men being recalcitrant about ceding any equality to non-white non-male people? (I’m not sure about that reds and yellows fighting; if they actually are, that may be caused by the fact that they have both been oppressed by whites, and they are fighting over what little is left? And OMG, reds and yellows?)
Al Franken resigned over his perving on adult females; we should definitely refuse to let Roy Moore sit. But my observation has been that it’s typically Democrats who are forced out for sexual predation, while Republicans just get stronger and stronger (as long as it isn’t same sex….)
Crap. Screwed up my italics…AGAIN! Damn this computer language. Why can’t the computer just speak English? After all, it was good enough for Jesus! /s
Just remember to close them, that’s all.
Franken’s out for doing things that his side consider unacceptable. Moore’s fine for doing things his side considers quite all right: statutory rape, slavery apologism, cheering for theocracy, and comparing consensual same-sex relations with genocide. Being revolting to Democrats and liberals is a bonus for him, and none of that revolts the Republicans of Alabama. It’s only a moderate swallow for the Republicans of the rest of the nation.
The overlap between Roy Moore voters and Trump voters, given an opportunity, is nearly total. Democrats need to ask themselves: is there anything worth the political price it would take to draw in any of that set? And how much of the rest of the potential electorate would you lose by doing so?
Sure, Jeff, except for one thing – Franken’s out for doing things that the other side also consider unacceptable… when Democrats do them . All the Bill Clinton trials, the John Edwards trials – these men are no worse (and no better) than their Republican counterparts, but they must be forced out.
Their real crime, in the eyes of the Republicans, isn’t sleazing on women. That’s okay. Their real crime is being Democrat. And they know that the Democrats have a thing against sleazing on women (well, some of them do; others seem to be perfectly fine with it; cf Harvey Weinstein). So they can clutch their pearls and swoon and faint, and get rid of a Democrat they dislike, while defending the sleaze of their own. And if the Dems don’t push out their sleazebags, then they are hypocrites…and Republicans will be sure everyone knows that.
My son suggested this, and I like it: For every male Senator, Representative, judge, or other elected official that is forced out for sleazing on women, a woman should be appointed in his place. My husband added a caveat: it should be one of the women they abused.
That ‘personal belief’ thing is an ecumenical curse that crosses the political spectrum.
I hope everyone reads ‘Bright Sided’ by Ehrenreich. The notion that belieeeeving is equivalent to truth has been promoted everywhere for decades now. There’s as much Werner Erhard and Shirley MacLaine in this as there is Reagan and Robertson.
John the Drunkard #6
Second that.