The very things that Allah has prohibited
IS explains why they’re so loathsome in an article. They make a list.
One is because you’re kuffar.
We hate you, first and foremost, because you are disbelievers; you reject the oneness of Allah – whether you realize it or not – by making partners for Him in worship, you blaspheme against Him, claiming that He has a son, you fabricate lies against His prophets and messengers, and you indulge in all manner of devilish practices.
Oh, more than that – I hate him, and I say he doesn’t exist and never has. I hate the fictional character, and I don’t for a second think he has ever existed. I blaspheme against him all the time. I also don’t for a second think he’s a “he.”
We hate you because your secular, liberal societies permit the very things that Allah has prohibited while banning many of the things He has permitted, a matter that doesn’t concern you because you Christian disbelief and paganism 32 separate between religion and state, thereby granting supreme authority to your whims and desires via the legislators you vote into power.
And I hate you right back for the same reason in reverse. Allah has prohibited the wrong things and permitted even worse things – like the things you shits do. That’s the nub of the matter all right, and you have it dead wrong. It’s a human job to decide what humans need and don’t need. What a putative god wants is beside the point for human beings.
They’re not what you’d call profound thinkers.
And how many people will read this and *still* go “but it’s economics and politics, not religion!”? It gets tiresome having to argue out of both sides of our mouths, on the one hand against see-no-evil (except the evils of capitalism and imperialism, which of course are legion and so difficult to sidestep once they’re brought up), and on the other hand against people who have no compunction plainly stating what they believe and explaining their motivations in pornographic detail.
Beliefs matter, and they’re worth taking seriously. The problem with the see-no-evils is that they often give the spittle-flecked fanatics control of the narrative in “their” communities, which throws reformers completely under the bus. It is perhaps ironic, and certainly sad, that so much liberal discourse is tying itself in knots to give voice to the most reactionary and oppressive forces in Muslim societies, when the victims of Islamic violence are almost always Muslims themselves. I know this has all been said ad nauseum, both by the author and commenters on this very blog no less, but it all still bears repeating.
Seth – for some people, it’s always economics. Trump is about economics, ISIS is about economics, it’s all good people being led astray because they are so economically distressed. And if it turns out they are NOT economically distressed, then it’s because they are upset on behalf of people who ARE economically distressed.
For some reason, a lot of people cannot accept the very real fact that some people just hate people, and are arrogant,, obnoxious bullies who want to have their own way, and will gladly destroy other people to get it. Perhaps the reason I see it differently is that I grew up with these people – my brother is Trump with less class (yeah, less class than Trump – betcha didn’t think that was possible).
The funny thing is many of the things they insist on being right and proper I see as being quite evil whims and desires. Positively carnally based in many cases. So….
Funny thing is I don’t run around (horribly) killing people I disagree with. Even the ones who I think are really evil dangerous people. I hope I never have to make that choice either, this side of the coming zombie apocalypse.
I just saw a friend’s facebook post about how ‘all religions teach peace.’ When I demurred, she claimed that ‘the avatars’ really did. When I cited the Quran’s commandments for beheading, and chapter devoted to loot…she answered ‘I don’t want to go there.’
Of course, if they obey Mo and cut off your fingertips, you won’t be able to stick them in your ears while you say ‘la-la-la.’
That kind of intentional ignorance really fucks me off, regardless of the topic.
Exactly so. The sort of thing I’d put on my gravestone. Or someone’s gravestone anyway.