The Bundy brothers left as quietly as they had entered
There was a community meeting in the Burns High School gym on Tuesday.
In sometimes highly personal remarks, speaker after speaker vented anger – at public officials, at the federal government and at the man in the brown cowboy hat sitting high in the bleachers to take it all in – Ammon Bundy.
So Ammon Bundy left Malheur and went to Bundy and sat in on a meeting, and wasn’t arrested. Why is that exactly? He’s committed multiple crimes and is continuing to commit them on an ongoing basis – why is he allowed to keep doing that, using guns, with impunity?
He sat on the second row from the top as County Judge Steve Grasty, microphone in hand, strode to the foot of that bleacher section.
“It is time for you to go home,” Grasty said to Bundy, vowing to meet with Bundy anytime, anyplace – outside of Harney County.
A chant then grew in the gymnasium: “Go, go, go, go, go.”
That was a message Bundy heard repeatedly through the evening, one he once vowed to heed. He sat expressionless, making no move to respond or to comment.
But no one arrests him. He should be going to jail, not home.
Another woman, shaking in anger, called out Bundy for the fear he’s caused in local schools, which closed for a week after the occupation began. She yelled across the gym at him, telling him to leave and “go to jail where you deserve to be!”
Apparently fear in the local schools just doesn’t count.
Police presence was heavy, with uniformed officers inside the gymnasium, lining the entry hall, and posted outside.
Ammon Bundy wasn’t the only one catching brickbats. Public officials, particularly Grasty and Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward, took a verbal pummeling.
One man, who said he was from Eugene, pressed Ward about what he was doing to end the occupation and what was the role of the FBI.
“Just tell the truth,” he barked.
One speaker pressed Grasty and others to not ignore questions posed by the audience.
“We deserve a response when we ask a question of our local officials,” said the woman, shaking and in tears as she spoke.
But apparently they didn’t get any.
This story just gets weirder and weirder. The place was full of cops, the sheriff and a judge were there, yet Bundy and his pals weren’t arrested. Why not?
Rancher Tom Sharp noted that Bundy and others had “lectured” local ranchers the night before on the need for them to repudiate their federal grazing permits.
Such a move would be “terribly destructive,” Sharp said.
He noted that Bundy’s impact on the community hasn’t been good.
“Our personal relationships have been damaged,” Sharp said.
He said it was time for patient law enforcement agents to act against “an active crime scene” at the refuge. He urged the refuge be isolated, services be cut off, and supplies no longer allowed in. His proposal drew applause and cheers from some in the crowd.
The community meeting was the second in a row sponsored by county officials, who vow to keep them up weekly as long as residents attend.
Well that’s kind of them, but what about arresting the perps?
When it ended, the Bundy brothers left as quietly as they had entered, striding silently to an SUV with Nevada plates, and driving off without a word to the throngs of reporters and onlookers who trailed behind.
Driving off to return to the national wildlife refuge they have stolen. Driving off without interference from the many police officers present.
This is mortifying. What the hell is going on w/law enforcement? Incomprehensible. I cannot get the many police murders of black people in our recent history. Why have these white criminals been given so much slack rope?
I’d like to see the police officer who could claim that law enforcement in the USA isn’t racist, after this farce.
This isn’t hard to understand. I’m sure the response is being dictated from the very top: by Obama. Look at it from his POV.
First of all, there is some seriously bad history (Ruby Ridge, Waco) with the feds using force in situations like this. If they do go in with force, they probably end up in a firefight. Remember, these are people who think they need guns to protect themselves from the government. If any of them die, they become martyrs. Plan B is stake out the local roads and stores and quietly arrest them when they drive off the refuge. It’s hard to get all of them that way, so you end up with some in prison and the rest hunkered down for a siege.
Either way, the occupiers become a cause celebre. It plays into right-wing talking points about government overreach and Kenyan Muslim socialist fascist dictator. It’s on Fox News 24×7 from now until the election. The Republicans are rubbing their hands with glee: they couldn’t have asked for a better get-out-the vote issue.
OTOH, if you just wait, there’s a good chance that the occupiers eventually get bored and go home, and then the whole thing fizzles. Even if they don’t get bored, everyone else does. If there’s nothing happening, even Fox News eventually moves on.
A third possibility is that the occupiers escalate. They came to create spectacle and confrontation, and they’ll do what it takes to get some. But what are they going to do? They’ve already torn down some fence and pulled out all the surveillance cameras. I suppose they could burn down the buildings, but then they’re in tents for the winter. And despite the totally hands-off response from the feds, I remain confident that if they start obstructing traffic or damaging property off of the refuge, the local police will arrest them tout suite.
The whole thing is annoying, but really, that’s all it is: an annoyance; a nuisance. Some time after the election, the feds will probably circle back and start filing charges. They’ve got enough to put all these people away for a long time.
There has been commentary on this blog comparing the occupiers with armed men in other places who occupy land by force, but structurally this situation is very different. When armed groups occupy land in other places, they install themselves as the local government/protection racket. That gives them a source of funds to sustain their operations and a reason to stay. The people in Oregon have neither. All they have is…
My empire of dirt – NIN
But that doesn’t explain why the police didn’t arrest the criminals at the community meeting, or why they’re letting more people join the “occupation.”
And it’s not true that an annoyance is all it is. They’re damaging the refuge and they’re stealing personnel records, to name just two bits of harm.
Steven, these people are intimidating local people. Why does the local community have to put up with them?
Ophelia, did you see this: Ryan Bundy: Native Americans have lost their claim to the Land.?
How do citizen’s arrests work down there? Make excuses for members of an official organization or chain of command all you like, but I wonder: why haven’t any of the people in any of the groups that DO object to this illegal seizing of public lands tried anything?
And Steven #3, while that’s all lovely guesswork, why aren’t their reasons being made explicit by officials? Why are they being so damned coy about the whole thing? Is the game they’re trying to play with these criminals so much more important than the anguish of the rest of their citizenry?
The government has been very lax about enforcing environmental regulations and protecting federal property in many ways, for the past several decades (in other words, since we’ve had environmental regulations ). This isn’t much different than logging companies that run roads through wild areas so they won’t be eligible for wilderness status; it’s just that these guys are not doing it undercover. They are in your face, and therefore a potential embarrassment for the Feds. Everyone knows what is happening now, but the feds haven’t changed their way of dealing except to actually monitor. I suspect a lot of the monitoring is damage control. These men have been legally ripping off the taxpayers for decades. Now that they have moved past legal extortion, the feds don’t know what to do, so they just watch.
Citizen’s arrests are tricky legally, and in the case of someone who can be presumed armed, a terribly dangerous idea.
Maybe we have this all wrong. Maybe what they’re doing isn’t illegal. Sure looks like it’s just an annoyance and only to a town and some federal employees.It;s certainly isn’t bothering anyone in the justice department or law enforcement. must not be illegal. Or maybe if anyone acts like it’s illegal, then the Bundy’s win. that’s just what they want them to do. If there was funnier copy on this story it would read like the movie Airplane.
Has there been any statement by Federal officials on this at all? All I’ve seen are statements from state and local officials.
All the pepper spray used up on the 99%?
Samantha Vimes #8, just to clarify: I don’t want to suggest that anyone attempt a citizen’s arrest. I do realize and agree that it would be terribly dangerous!
And yet I wonder why no-one has tried. People do dangerous things all the time, and some of the people who OPPOSE the occupiers are themselves from groups who stereotypically are associated with hyper-masculinity and having hero complexes, AND are most definitely armed; at least some of them are white male hunters, for example. I’m frankly astounded that none of them have tried to take matters into their own hands.
The “authorities” are apparently refusing to act appropriately (or even to provide an official explanation as to why they think their inaction is appropriate!), so yeah it rather surprises me that no-one’s lashed out at either the occupiers or the authorities with more than angry words. Are they really that afraid of the occupiers, or the authorities, or both? Or are these citizens all far better people than I’m giving them credit for? (I hope for the latter, but would be unsurprised, if dismayed, by the former.)
Best line of the day.
These white criminals have their own political party, with candidates who get free publicity from the ‘meain stream’ media.
Q.E.D.
I see the Bundy brothers have been arrested, along with others. One person shot dead and another injured, so things did not go smoothly.