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Raw Story has more on Roosh V’s plans to promote rape as a good thing. It turns out it’s supposed to be a global event, like those protests against wars or slavery or similar. Of course this Roosh guy is doing the opposite of protesting bad shit, so that’s a twist on the story.
The spokesperson for a U.S.-based anti-woman group who advocates for “legal” rape has organized worldwide meet-up events in 43 different countries on Saturday.
On a website advertising the “Return of the Kings” event, self-styled “pick up artist” Daryush “Roosh V” Valizadeh has encouraged his misogynist supporters to “come out of the shadows and not have to hide behind a computer screen for fear of retaliation,” The National reported.
The website promises 165 events in 43 countries at 8 p.m. local time on Saturday. Valizadeh has instructed his followers to go to a public location at each meeting area and identify themselves by asking, “Do you know where I can find a pet shop?” From there, group members will be taken to a secret meeting location.
Very secret. Impossible to find out where the secret location is unless you go to the public one and say the publicly announced secret code phrase. So stealthy.
Australian Greens Party candidate Jill Thomsen lashed out at Valizadeh’s group on Twitter.
“The creeps from @ReturnOfKings are meeting in Sydney,” she wrote. “Their masculinity is so fragile they will use ‘codewords’ to find each other in public.”
Codewords that they announce in public.
A man who believes rape should be legalised has not applied for a visa, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says, despite ‘Roosh V’ confirming plans to visit Canberra this weekend.
But Mr Dutton has not ruled out stopping his entry into the country, stating he would continue to monitor the case.
Daryush Valizadeh, also known as Roosh V, is the creator of Return of Kings (ROK), a group organising “tribal meetings” for this Saturday in Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney and Perth.
It’s tempting to think it’s all a big joke, but the difference between this as a big joke and this as serious isn’t all that big.
I wonder, I just wonder if Roosh V’s most favourite book ever when he was a kid was ‘Slave Girl of Gor’ and he just never quite moved past that point of development?
Ohhh…I just can’t address this head-on. Let me shell out to my favorite philosophers: Calvin and Hobbes
http://misc.jogasziget.hu/c-and-h/Images/ch8705085276.gif
Roosh V thinks that the way to stop rape is to…. legalise it on private property: http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-stop-rape. Don’t click that link unless you have a very strong stomach.
His ‘reasoning’ is that it’s womens fault they get raped because they don’t take enough care not to be, so if rape is legal on private property, they’ll take more care to ensure they’re not raped. Such as not drinking or wearing certain clothing or, presumably, being alone with people they have known and trusted for years.
BONUS: if you can stand to click the link, see if you can find the part that’s virtually identical to one of Dawkins’ tweets…
I hope no one shows up.
Here is another that is a bit more on point
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1989/04/09
Latsot, I clicked the link and the ‘reasoning’ is … oh well, it’s indeed sooo tempting to think that “it’s all a big joke”! Please, tell me that it is. Three minutes ago I thought that I had alredy seen the bottom of what can be found on the net!
(On the other hand, in the words of Stanisław Lec, “when you arrive at the very bottom, you will hear knocking from below.”)
Ariel @6:
If you’re asking whether it’s satire, I’m very much afraid that the answer is definitely no. Roosh V’s ‘thinking’ along these lines goes back decades. He’s written many books dripping with misogyny and advocating terrible things. He himself has admitted to committing rape if – his ‘if’, not mine – rape includes getting a woman so drunk that she can’t say no. In one of his books he seems to brag about doing something which in America would be considered rape. I don’t have the details to hand, but I could probably find them. Those details are almost certainly on We Hunted The Mammoth, which I recommend to everyone here not just for the purposes of FREAKING YOURSELVES ALL THE WAY OUT due to the horrible behaviour that’s reported there, but because it is witty and humane.
If you’re asking whether he’s being totally serious or making an argumentative point for the sake of it, experience tells me that he probably means it but has dressed it up in vaguely satirical-sounding language so he can deny it later. That’s experience of Roosh V himself and of his followers, admirers and ilk. He’s proven himself more interested in defining rape away by calling it something else than to stop women actually being raped. It’s clear from his ‘logic’ in that link, for instance, that he hasn’t even considered the possibility of marital rape.
Was more thinking of the various Calvin and Hobbes clubhouse ritual bits, myself. G.R.O.S.S., the comically inflated executive titles, various secret handshakes…
On Roosh, my vague conjecture, for what it’s worth, is: the guy’s got a more than mild need for attention. And being mocked is a little better than being ignored. He’ll say it was all a sendup, he’ll say whatever. The truth is of little relevance, probably not even especially worked out, on his end. The only consistent message you are likely to find here is: ‘look at me’.
Just like it’s the fault of the guy with the big stereo system or the fancy car when it’s ripped off, because he made it so obvious he had it by driving it on the public roads or by blaring it at high volume all through the town.
And of course, there’s the guy with the obvious wallet bulge in his back pocket. If he would leave his wallet at home, or make it less obvious, it would not tempt those pickpockets or muggers.
Way back in the 20s some Notre Dame students pulled a prank on the Klan by issuing a secret invite. They loaded a bus full of them and… I can’t recall whether they dumped them in a pig-sty, had the football team beat them up, or dropped them by the side of the road in their sheets.
The temptation to show up at the ‘public locations’ and harvest morons is hard to resist. ‘Pet shop? Surrre, I got yer pet shop! Just follow me down this alley….’
Clementine Ford has responded by saying “Let’s make it legal for women to kill men who try to rape them on private property.”
If ever Clementine decides to run for Parliament, she will get all my votes.
I’m loving Roosh’s plan to avoid the need for a visa. He thinks he can land somewhere off Darwin from Indonesia (what, in a fishing boat? Research “drowning”, idiot: also what happens when your fishing boat meets an Australian naval vessel, search “orange lifeboats”) and then be in Sydney or Melbourne a few hours later. He seems to think Mission: Impossible was true: drive on a motor cycle for half an hour and you’re in remote regions and vice versa. Umm, NO. But by all means, go ahead and try it. Also research how many have died of starvation and thirst because they landed on a really isolated section of our coast.
I guess he thinks he has loyal followers who will be able to drive thousands of kilometres to pick him up and drop him off. Who else wants to be on that road trip?
@learie:
Nice try, but it doesn’t work. Men aren’t asking to be killed when they try to rape women. But women are asking to be raped when they…. exist.
Thanks to you I now have a mental image of Roosh V washing up on Redcar beach (the closest beach to me). It’s polluted enough already, it doesn’t need that.