The rapper told ‘The Breakfast Club’
I tried to find some evidence to rebut (or not) something I claimed.
Ed Cara on Twitter said in response to my link to the first collection of misogynist comments about Germaine Greer:
Those are all certainly vile, but I absolutely do think there’d be vile racist comments over quotes from a famous AA speaker
So I looked around, and found a rapper who obliged. Pink News reported last September:
Waka Flocka Flame made a series of transphobic comments on a New York radio station on Friday.
The rapper told ‘The Breakfast Club’ that Caitlyn Jenner’s transition was an: “Affront to God.”
He went on to accuse “transgenders” of “marketing evil, man.”
Flame continued to wax lyrical about the danger of non-traditional family units, accusing men and women of forgetting their gender roles as “husbands and wives”.
“Women are afraid to be a wife and young males is afraid to be men.” he said.
“It’s like, it’s not cool, they’re not marketing that. They don’t market families and husbands and wives no more.
“They marketing young girls, you know what I’m saying?” he said, as it became increasingly clear that few around him did.
“Transgenders — they’re marketing evil, man,” he said, before accusing the trans community of doing the “devil’s work” and as a test that society needed to “outbeat [sic]”.
“You are who you are when God made you, not who you became after he did.
“That’s how I just feel. You rebuking God, man.
“God didn’t put them feelings in you, man, that’s the Devil playing tricks on your mind,” he added.
“That’s a test from God. If you can’t outbeat [sic] that one task and you believe that, then you’re going to believe everything else.”
However, Mr Flame didn’t reserve his hate fuelled philosophising for trans people alone – he also criticised the African American community, insisting that they need “get over slavery”.
So I found the Pink News Facebook post of the story. Ed was at least partly right – the comments are certainly abusive. On the other hand they’re not explicitly racist the way so many of the comments about Greer were misogynist – and there are only 34, compared to her 223.
But plenty of them are implicitly racist. Like the second one for instance:
Gideon John Kramer Waka flaka wtf all theses idiots with the brain the apsize of an ant who brag about fucking bitches selling drugs and people are so fucking stupid they pay these idiots attention rap takes no talent what so ever these idiots call themself artists and then say stupid things like this moron its sad to see how many people actually even listion to anything these idiots say
And others:
Pete Smith Looks like a trans human.
Scott Sherman I’m not a fan of ignorant, bigoted talentless twats holding themselves out like theyre a role model and spewing their hate in interviews
There’s a rather cryptic one…
Donny Ball WAKA your baby girl is waiting for you.
The misogyny sneaks in even when the sinner isn’t a woman.
But anyway: my claim is at least partly rebutted.
I’m not sure your point is rebutted at all. The equivalent to what was being said about Greer would require language rarely seen outside of Stormfront. Is it really implicitly racist to call a black person “ignorant, bigoted [and] talentless?”
Gideon’s probably racist, Pete might be. Scott used misogynist, not racist language.
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Not that section perhaps, but “Waka flaka wtf all theses idiots with the brain the apsize of an ant who brag about fucking bitches selling drugs…” is certainly a common way of demonising rap artists. Plus, there are apparently 34 out of 223 comments that are explicitly so.
There’s no comparison to the overt misogyny directed at Greer. Its certainly easy to suspect overt racism behind some coded veneer. But that IS the point. Not even David Duke would be calling this rapper a nigger.
Even the most overt racist bile can be amazingly censored and massaged to sustain some deniability at the Faux News level.
About the 34 out of 223 – sorry, that was my bad wording. I meant I was comparing the 34 total comments on that post with the 223 on the Greer post, and noting or implying that more for Greer probably indicated more energetic hatred. But that’s moot anyway, because I later found an earlier post on the rapper that did have 200+ comments, so the energy is comparable.
But yeah – I do think the absence of explicitly racist epithets compared to the intrusive presence of misogynist epithets for Greer marks a difference. But I was attempting to correct for the fact that I take misogynist epithets more personally.