Solidarity becomes a dirty word
The Goldsmiths Feminist Society removed their statement of solidarity with Goldsmiths Isoc from Facebook but they later tweeted the tumblr version, which remains.
Goldsmiths Feminist Society stands in solidarity with Goldsmiths Islamic Society. We support them in condemning the actions of the Atheist, Secularist and Humanist Society and agree that hosting known islamophobes at our university creates a climate of hatred.
We showed our support on our Facebook page by sharing ISOC’s post with a message of solidarity. Our Facebook page is designed as a space for us to communicate with our members, and their safety is our first priority, under the policies set out by our Student Union. We reserve the right to remove comments and posts that violate these terms or contribute to the marginalisation of students.
The Goldsmiths Feminist Society condemns the “actions” of the ASH Society, meaning, inviting Maryam Namazie to give a talk, and putting up posters advertising her talk (many of which were removed). What business does the Goldsmiths Feminist Society have condemning any of that? Why shouldn’t an atheist secularist humanist society invite an atheist secularist humanist activist to speak? Why is the GFS treating Maryam as some sort of horrifying contaminant?
And what on earth is this “known Islamophobe” shit? Besides a big lie put about by the Goldsmiths Isoc? Maryam does dislike Islam, but she has every right to dislike Islam, as we all do. But “Islamophobe” really (though not literally) means hater of Muslims, and that’s just a lie. Maryam’s family are Muslims; she takes great pains to distinguish between Islam and Muslims, and between Islam and Islamism.
The GFS simply bought the Goldsmiths Isoc’s account of Maryam and her talk whole cloth, and that account is a shameless lie.
This is feminism?
So the members of the GFS would be happy to be forced to wear a hijab, would they? And to be forced to sit in a section separate (and smaller and worse) than the section for the real people, the men? And to be subject to stoning should they ever marry and then fuck someone else? And to force their daughters into marriages against their will? And to discipline their daughters ferociously if they ever rebelled against wearing the hijab or marrying someone they don’t want to marry? That all sounds good to them, and feminist too?
What an insult.
No, of course not! They’re just happy that other women have that “choice”, and are able to do all those things so freely and without any coercion at all, because after all, a “choice” is “feminist”, no matter what the motivation behind the choice. But…no, they would never tolerate being told to wear that, and do that, because as feminists, they are free to make a different “choice”.
I’m getting very disgusted with being lumped as a feminist, when clearly my definition of feminism differs dramatically from the definition of feminism on display by the Goldsmith’s group. I will call myself a feminist, but I will continue to resist any efforts to make that mean something that would support such a loose, amorphous blob of misogynistic shit.
So the members of the GFS would be happy to be forced to wear a hijab, would they?
Perhaps, Ophelia, many already do…
And they embrace the tosh that Islam’s rise was a boon to women’s rights.
I’ve encountered quite a few hijabbed women who’ve expropriated the entire feminist discourse ( vocabulary) only to stand it on its head and to harness it to the propagation of the faith.
They describe wearing a hijab…and even the niqab…as “empowering”.
Feminists, endorsing subjugation? What kind of topsy-turvy, fucked-up, hooping-jumping, mind-twisting does one have to do to get there? Holy fuck.
And let me guess: All of the wonderful FTB intersectionalists are currently on mute because they can’t think of a single thing to say or do at this point. They will hide in their shells until one of them pokes their head out to see if the wind has shifted in a way that makes it clear that they should condemn either the Feminist Society or Isoc. I mean, they can’t condemn both, can they? To do so might mean they’ll come under fire for having an opinion not handed down to them from someone more knowledgeable about what to do when the intersections actually intersect in such a way that makes both parties look like heinousness fucking idiots. The splatter damage for offering up an opinion at this point could actually do damage to their righteous and pristine reputations. Until then, maybe they can act like they’re busy or have movie reviews to write or something.
@John #2
Yes. When I was younger I was told that we should be thankful to Islam for having “liberated” us, that Islam was already feminist and that “women’s lib” was blasphemy and leading us astray. I wore the “empowering” (cf. Humpty Dumpty) hijab for about a year!
The worst Faux News bloviating about ‘PC’ pales in the face of the real thing. ‘Dark skin?’ check. ‘Wants to kill Jews and Americans?’ check. Welcome fellow Progressive!
The choking rage of Pat Condell, or the incoherence of Pamela Gellar looks positively sane and balanced in comparison.
@ Helene 4
Yeah I’ve met some who are of that opinion with regards to women’s rights
And when speaking to those interested in or studying climate change, they’ll claim that Mohamed was the world’s first ‘enviromentalist’.
They’ll spout any outrageous nonsense it they think there’s even a slight chance those listening will swallow it
There’s a post here by Harry Matz of the say, double standards, of ISOC about what is acceptable discourse.
With a thread of utterly foul and obscene comments.
Islamists turn highly obscene in their abuse faster than most people.
https://harrymatz.wordpress.com/2015/12/02/goldsmiths-isoc-president-and-maryam-namazie/
Well you know, someone told them that Maryam is Islamophobic, therefore they know she is Islamophobic.
Dun dun dunnnnnn
My feminism will be intersectional, but it will NOT be so intersectional that women’s issues are swept aside for everything else with a progressive label until
calling it feminism will be BULLSHIT.
@7 Yeah, quite the thread there. Reporting on some unpleasant truths is now bigotry.