Atheists should be banned
I accidentally encountered a new (new to me) atheist-hater yesterday. Very unpleasant guy. I was curious so I followed the link to his blog, and found this winsome little essay.
Let me make a loud and clear statement that a James Lee or Jared Loughner type would or should understand. A secular humanist seeks to improve human welfare upon our planet while atheism is amoral and only claims to be a lack of belief. Isn’t it clear that these two men lack respect for human life? So they can rightfully call themselves atheists but should be denied entrance into a humanist organization. Yet the above humanist organizations welcome and recruit atheists who may or may not respect human life.
The Counsel for Secular Humanism and the American Humanists Association should immediately delineate their terms and deny atheists into their ranks. There is a difference between the terms atheist and humanist! Until the above Humanist organizations delineate their terms, they must defend the actions taken by the type of “nut jobs” that they would allow into their ranks! These “Humanist Organizations” have some explaining to do!
He’s saying atheists are likely murderers. And yet they laugh when we say atheists are a despised group! Funny, innit. (I don’t advise commenting there. The guy’s got a nasty mouth, and he’s not what you’d call scrupulous.)
Some people despise atheists, yes. (Many of them somewhat more representative than the self proclaimed “rather ordinary guy” you link to.) There are vast tracts of land where atheists would have to be extremely brave to step. But, then, that goes for every religious faith as well. What do you mean by “despised group”?
The usual – for instance the much-cited US survey in which atheists were by a wide margin the least acceptable for public office or marriage to offspring.
That blog has the strangest interpretation of atheism I have ever seen. If someone had told me that saying that atheism is an idea with no content, just lack of belief, could be interpreted as saying that atheists have no beliefs about anything I would think they were joking. But no, it has happened. I never cease to be amazed at how much effort some people put into being stupid.
I know it. There’s such a thing as dedicated stupidity. And it’s not rare!
What’s depressing is how common an assertion this is among humanists, as passport to BenSix’s vast tracts.
I wonder if the person who wrote that is even literate? When he writes
he contrasts a person (secular humanist) with a viewpoint (atheism). Of course atheism is amoral! So is a fondness of the colour blue. My wife likes blue. Does that make her amoral? Of course the amorality of the atheist position doesn’t mean most atheists are amoral, nor that they can’t hold moral convictions, such as a respect for truth, that just may have led them to their atheism. If anybody can trace a thread of anything resembling logic in that nasty piece, please let me know, for I cannot see it.
I expect that many churces also “welcome and recruit” members “who may or may not respect human life” …
It seems I missed seeing #3 and #4 before I posted. Dedicated stupidity seems to cover it. I like it. Not the phenomenon – the term for it.
You’re right about the literacy though, Harald. It’s worth pointing out the dedicated stupidity from more than one angle.
Ummm… secular humanism is atheism. It’s one particular form of atheism. Plain old undifferentiated Dictionary Atheism is only ‘amoral’ because it’s a wide category with a lot of diverse philosophies within it, united only by a non-belief in God. But practically nobody is an “atheist” in that sense, with no underlying personal philosophy or ethics.
This is like a Lutheran church wanting to exclude any “Christians.”
This guy is a nutjob and hater. The world is full of them.
No, Steve, he is not putting any effort at all into being stupid: it comes naturally, without either intent or awareness. There are plenty of people who really do put a lot of effort into being stupid, and they’re obviously quite intelligent. This character can hardly even speak, let alone string two or three ideas together into some coherent line of thought. In fact, there is no thought, just reaction, vulgar catch-phrases and “stance” and “anger” and all them fings. It’s attitude, innit.
*immoral
Bill Gates, Atheist: Donates billions of dollars to charity
The Pope, Religious: Donates nothing.
Atheists are proven to be more productive asshole, no offense to any religious people
I’m atheist by the way