It won’t work unless the operator is relaxed
Another entry for the ‘I thought I was beyond being shocked’ category – a very expensive ‘bomb detector’ that has nothing in it but ‘the type of anti-theft tag used to prevent stealing in high street stores.’ Iraq has been paying $40,000 apiece for them – and using them to detect bombs – and they can’t detect bombs because all they have is ‘the cheapest bit of electronics that you can get that look vaguely electronic and are sufficiently flat to fit inside a card.’
Well that’s a nice way to make money!
The Iraqi government has spent $85m on the ADE-651 and there are concerns that they have failed to stop bomb attacks that have killed hundreds of people…The device is sold by Jim McCormick, based at offices in rural Somerset, UK. The ADE-651 detector has never been shown to work in a scientific test. There are no batteries and it consists of a swivelling aerial mounted to a hinge on a hand-grip. Critics have likened it to a glorified dowsing rod. Mr McCormick told the BBC in a previous interview that “the theory behind dowsing and the theory behind how we actually detect explosives is very similar”.
Oh is it! So what was it doing on the market then?
He says that the key to it is the black box connected to the aerial into which you put “programmed substance detection cards”, each “designed to tune into” the frequency of a particular explosive or other substance named on the card. Newsnight obtained a set of cards for the ADE-651 and took them to Cambridge University’s Computer Laboratory where Dr Markus Kuhn dissected a card supposed to detect TNT. It contained nothing but the type of anti-theft tag used to prevent stealing in high street stores. Dr Kuhn said it was “impossible” that it could detect anything at all and that the card had “absolutely nothing to do with the detection of TNT. There is nothing to program in these cards. There is no memory. There is no microcontroller. There is no way any form of information can be stored,” he added. The tags which are supposed to be the heart of such an expensive system cost around two to three pence. “These are the cheapest bit of electronics that you can get that look vaguely electronic and are sufficiently flat to fit inside a card,” Dr Kuhn told Newsnight.
Dear god. How do people live with themselves?!
McCormick, McCormick … where did I see this name again? Oh, yeah, here and here. Yes, that’s it.
I posted a comment that didn’t show up. Maybe it’s just held for moderation, since it contained links. Oh well, just enter “mccormick site:randi.org” (without the quotes) into a google search box to get the links. This is not news, unfortunately. As to how the guy can live with himself, I have no idea. Maybe he’s an atheist or something. They don’t even have a definition of “good”, you know.
It showed up – I don’t have a moderation queue. (I have tons of spam, instead!)
Not news…I didn’t know about it though. I can’t keep up!
Thanks for the links. The BBC article cites Randi. Well done Randi.
Can’t keep up? Don’t take it personally. Nobody can. And if you try, you’ll lose your focus. I know, all the badness out there just looks like a big ugly blur to me. But once in a while, a beacon of darkness sticks out of the muck and overshadows everything else. This is one such item. (Okay, I’ll stop torturing metaphors now.)
The crook flogging these things declared himself to be a ‘born again Christian’.
Oh, I see he’s just been arrested for fraud.
Of course if the bombers believed that it worked, that might have deterred them to some extent.
While I’ve no sympathy for the manufacturer, surely the purchasers have demonstrated remarkable ignorance if they did not bother to check whether the claim actually has some scientific plausibility. Or, even worse, maybe they don’t know that such a step is required. That is, it may be a question of education.
Or a matter of corruption. When a regime buys millions of dollars worth of stuff from the West, there are often kickbacks to ministers, generals etc. Gosh, might that sort of thing happen in liberated Iraq and democratic Afghanistan? One cannot choose but wonder. Let’s hope somebody follows the money trail.
Well, yes, if you’re going to spend 40K apiece on ‘bomb detection’ devices it does seem worth doing some basic kicking of the tires. But still…people shouldn’t be able to flog ‘bomb detection’ devices that are just bits of cardboard and plastic.
Has he really been arrested for fraud? V good…but terribly late.
Did they come with bible verses?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34937429/ns/us_news-military/
If not, no wonder they didn’t work.
On a recent newsbit on the current drug war in Mexico, I saw Mexican military/police using just such a gadget.
An officer wash shown inserting a playingcard-sized bit of plastic, labelled ‘cocaine’ into the mystery box. The network talking-head providing the voice-over made some mention of ‘new technology’ with a straight face.
Even without any flashing lights? That’s impressive.
They should make one goes “ding”! I hear they are very expensive.
Slightly related, what about yo-gods (God detectors)?
http://www.yo-god.com (this is a commercial site but it’s still amusing).
Yes of course corruption may have been a factor in countries like those.
I’m not sure about flashing lights or going “ding”. In certain circumstances you might not want to warn the suspect. Wouldn’t it be better to send a telepathic message to the user?
The ones that go ‘ding’ are very expensive…so they’re more than 40 grand? The mind boggles!
Okay, in case someone missed it, I was making reference to the Monty Python hospital sketch. And I was wrong, it’s the machine that goes PING, not ding. Sorry about that. (The sketch is available on youtube.) And yes, Ophelia, I think the machine that goes PING is more than 40 grand. Much more.
You can also use the flashing lights (or the “ding”) to convey extra information, for instance saying to the highly-trained operators
T H E R E I S A B O M B
in Morse code. (Admittedly most of the words are redundant but you get the idea.)
Maybe it costs more with “ding” because the sound is copyright.
Clearly he doesn’t care at all about whether it detects bombs. This fucker is just as callous as McCormick.
Latest news on the fake detectors scandal here:http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/17/uk-iraq-britain-explosives-idUKTRE71G3H120110217This was the man who said:“Whether it’s magic or scientific, what I care about is it detects bombs,” said Maj. Gen. Jehad al-Jabiri, head of the Ministry of the Interior’s General Directorate for Combating Explosives.“I don’t care about Sandia or the Department of Justice or any of them,” General Jabiri said. “I know more about this issue than the Americans do. In fact, I know more about bombs than anyone in the world.”You can check out the blogs at:http://ade651gt200scamfraud.blogspot.comhttp://explosivedetectorfrauds.blogspot.com/http://sniffexquestions.blogspot.comor our new Google Group here:http://groups.google.com/group/the-fake-explosives-detector-campaignThe more coverage this story get the better.The foolowing still are at large:James McCormick and the ADE 651, Gary Bolton and the GT200. David Vollmar and the HEDD1, General Pierre Hadji Georgiou at ProSec in Lebanon, Ilie Stelian at Mira Telecom, John Wyatt at SDS, Malcolm Roe, Sam Tree, Yuri Markov, Horizon Group India, Simon Sherrard at Comstrac, and quite a few others. They should not be sleeping too well now.ProSec were the conduit for the corrupt $85 million ADE 651 sale to Iraq. We have reason to believe they may now be changing agencies to the equally idiotic HEDD1 from Unival in Germany.
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