I just read your article “The Pseudo-Science of the ‘9/11 Truth’ Movement” and must take issue with the tone and substance of that article.
First and foremost: in a poll conducted by Zogby in 9/2007, 51% of Americans said they wanted Congress to probe Bush & Cheney’s actions before, during and after 9/11. There are other polls out there that show at least a majority (and sometimes much more) of Americans do not believe the 9/11 Commission’s report on the 9/11 events. There are literally hundreds of respected scholars; military officers (active & retired); academics, fire & police personnel; scientists, etc. that do not believe our Government’s account of what happened on that fateful day.
For you to take 2 people and run them through the mud and then villify the entire 9/11 Truth movement just serves to make you look foolish and as though you are hiding something… I mean, what is wrong with people trying to find out the truth? Do YOU sincerely believe WTC 7 just collapsed from a few small fires and minor debris hitting it??? Why are there no pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon? Why is there no plane wreckage from Shanksville? If Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11, why haven’t we captured or killed him? Why has the FBI not officially placed blame on Osama bin Laden for the attacks?
There are far too many questions unanswered, and if our Government was being honest, why wouldn’t they work harder to provide information and clarification about 9/11? Why is there so much secrecy? Why are people so dead-set against having another investigation? What could happend? Wouldn’t it just serve to enhance our understanding of those events — and through this — we could make sure it never happened again…
>why wouldn’t they work harder to >provide information and clarification >about 9/11?
NASA doesn’t bother either to work hard to provide information and clarification about the Moon-landing. There is a whole movement which claims that it never happened but it was all staged by Hollywood.
While the author is wright in saying both are irrational , she must understand that in hinduism and buddhism there is no call to persecute the unbeliever. Tradionally , hindus and budhhists have conducted debates and arrived at consensus.Exceptions have been there of course.
The problem with Semetic religions is not that they are violent but don’t accept other points of view and demand obedience to a book and prophet.Freedom of speech is not allowed at all. Violence is one of the means of preventing a scientific outlook.Non-violent methods include ex-communication and boycott(something like Gandhi did).
But in eastern religions , though irrational , you dont have such problems.Thats why hindu practices keep evolving to suit the times.
To give an example , RSS a hindu nationalist organisation has taken MF Hussain to court for painting nude images of hindu deities.No proof exists for the existence of these deities.But the hindu culture which fostered these irrational beliefs also taught people to prefer peaceful avenues first.
But we saw the amount of violence on the streets following the danish cartoons.
Moreover hindu deities and religous ideas are regularly ridiculed in movies and most hindus though hurt do not resort to violence.But if Islamic holy books are subjected to same amount of ridiculed you would be murdered.
Classic example is of Salman Rushdie.Something like that would not (would not be allowed) to happen in Hinduism.
Also Meera Nanda cannot write such articles in an Islamic country.
I also believe Deputy Chief Peter Hayden, who was there at the time:
‘By now, this is going on into the afternoon, and we were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse’.
I read Jim Willmot’s article with great interest. Would that I could be so loquacious in my efforts to express the sentiments and facts contained in the article. Absent, however, is any suggestion of a course of action that can make any impact on the situation as a whole. I can tell you with no fear of contradiction that I am surrounded by the ignorance and superstition of rampant religiousity. I have been told by my wife to keep my opinions to myself, as she fears our house will be burned down if I don’t. I see on every hand the expressions of the ignorant, with little or no rebuttal from the scientific/atheist community, Mr. Willmot’s article and a few others excepted. And in all this, I realize that one cannot win an argument or score any kind of meaningful points against an ignorant opponent. I have looked at the Freedom From Religion Foundation, but am concerned that it presents itself as rant organization. I share Mr. Willmot’s concern for a future dominated by these people, but the present concerns me more. Thirty years ago I was heartened by the civil rights movement, the birth control pill, Roe v. Wade, and a host of other indicators that humanity had a chance. Now I am certain that Armageddon is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and that humanity is it’s agent, in the here and now. I am open to suggestion as to solutions.
Ah, the old wise Kaiser. “‘The old man was 80 by then,’ Churchill wrote. ‘He said he’d spent twenty years reading every history book he could lay hands on and there was only one eternal truth: anyone who steals land he wasn’t born on, is doomed.’” An eternal truth. Like, uh, the United States, for instance? Didn’t we steal our land from the Indians, slaughter them, imprison them, relegate them to reservations (from which they now exact revenge on us via casinos). Are you predicting the imminent doom of the U.S.? Or do these silly, infantile bromides only apply to Israel when you find them convenient? Oh yes, besides the U.S., there’s Australia, much of South America, Turkey (conquering, enslaving, killing the Greeks), and I’m sure many other countries. Ah, that wise old Kaiser! At least he lives on as the name of a roll.
“If you think an intelligent designer designed the universe, then how about the unsavoury aspects of his design?” – That is no argument against an intelligent designer – only against a universally benevolent “intelligent designer”
There is no reason to presuppose that an “intelligent designer” should he/she/it exist, be either benevolent or predisposed to reveal himself to is creation or have his existence open to explanation by science.
“Isn’t it more comforting, as well as more rational, to believe in design by impersonal forces of nature rather than design by a personal deity who’s guilty of wanting it that way?” – No it is not more comforting, it is merely more rational. The fact that that is maybe more comforting to believe in an intelligent designer maybe the primary reason for the persistence of religion.
Mr Sokal, you can come out now! This has to be a hoax.
As for the Kaiser’s bromide: ‘anyone who steals land he wasn’t born on, is doomed.’ This explains why Germany has been under seige by Danish, Pomeranian, Bavarian, Alsatian, Lorrainoise, and Polish terrorists operating with full cooperation in every neighboring country.
Of course the Czech republic is denounced in the UN on a daily basis because of ‘their reluctance to recognize that it is very reasonable for Germans, especially those from old or new Sudetenland …, to have a lasting sense of grievance about pan-Slavism’s takeover of their ancestral farms and villages’
Remember here that German expulsions after WWII number millions of victims not a few score thousands.
If Palestinian nationhood is the outraged victim, why doesn’t anyone complain about the 80% of Mandate Palestine carved off and handed over to an imported Arab king?
But of course, since there has never been an Arab or Muslim country called ‘Palestine,’ the political fantasy of Palestinian nationalism is never defined in terms of Jordan. Land is only ‘Palestinian’ after Jews have stood on it.
Ask a fan of Palestinian nationalism about Gaza and the West Bank BEFORE 1967. Listen to the deafening silence and remember that the annexation of these territories ‘began well before Israel’s declaration of independence and the subsequent declaration of war by neighbouring Arab countries in May 1948.’ The American journalist John Roy Carlson witnessed and described the massive infiltration of Egyptian and Jordanian soldiers in the months before partition.
Much more could be said but this should be enough to stir some thought.
I do not like the traditional religions but there are some things that make them different from Scientology. An interesting case is this call for a resolution to revoke Scientology’s tax-exempt status in Texas:
“In order to preserve Scientology’s religious tax exempt status in the state of Texas an organization must meet objectives in order to qualify. They are listed in the following statements:
1.) The organization must have an official statement of Faith. The church of Scientology has no such statement.
2.) The organization must have some form of routine worship service. The church of Scientology has no such routine.
3.) Church services must be open and freely available to the public. The church of Scientology requires its members to pay an amount equal to or greater than 15,000 U S dollars and to be subjugated to months of mind altering auditing sessions in order for a member to obtain the information regarding the teachings of Scientology. Members who complete these courses are forced to sign agreements not to inform either unpaid/unaudited members or the general public of the teachings of Scientology.
Be it resolved that the church of Scientology in the state of Texas be officially regarded as a business and not as a religion.”
That seems a good approach to me, instead of Dianetics, some more dialectic thinking, please:
Next step might be to realise that there are many businesses (Nike, Google, etc. ;-)) with “statement of faith”, “regular worship service” and “services freely available to the public”. Than the public could decide that there should not be any discrimination among the producers of irrational ontology + psychological assistance and all other commodities and either exempt them all from tax or tax them alike.
Honor Killing Victim Wanted to Live Like other German Girls
“At age 16, all Morsal Obeidi wanted was to live the way other girls in Germany do. She paid dearly: Obeidi’s brother stabbed her 20 times. Her murder has sparked a renewed debate in Germany about the failure of many immigrant families to integrate into Western society.”
LEAVING MUSLIM WOMEN UNPROTECTED: Red Tape Makes it Harder to Prevent Honor Killings
German red tape and a lack of will on the part of officialdom is putting some Muslim women in a very dangerous position. Instead of protecting them from the threat of honor killings, some of the bureaucracy actually increases the risk.
Another free thinker is to be executed in Iran in the coming days
It is with great regret that I inform all freedom loving people of the world that the Mullahs’ terrorist regime is about to execute one of Iran’s finest thinkers, a true patriot, scholar and historian.
Dr. Foroud Fouladvand is a dedicated monarchist, a Ferdousi expert as well as expert on the history of Iran and Islam.
A confirmed report sent to the office of Dr. Fouladvand in London from inside Iran suggests that Dr. Fouladvand and two of his compatriots are going to be executed on Saturday, May 31, 2008 or possibly even sooner.
The two men to be executed alongside Dr. Fouladvand are Mr. Nazem Schmidtt, an Iranian/American citizen, aka Simorgh, and Mr. Alexander Valizadeh, an Iranian/ German citizen, aka Koroush Lor.
Dr. Fouladvand, a British citizen, was known throughout the Iranian community for his open criticism of Islam and the Mullah’s tyranny.
Dr. Fouladvand, who is an expert on Islam, openly challenged the Qur’an in his daily television broadcasts for listeners both inside and outside Iran. His Television discussions were offensive to the Mullahs. On March 10, 2006, in a preplanned action, about 65 of his supporters refused to leave a Lufthansa plane in protest of the European Union’s policy of appeasement of the Mullahs’ regime.
Dr. Fouladvand was led to believe by an agent of the Mullahs’ regime posing as a monarchist activist from within Iran that there were many Iranian patriots inside Iran who believed in him, and that a meeting with them would be fruitful in organizing and uniting people inside Iran to oppose the Mullahs. On October 13, 2006, Dr. Fouladvand and a number of his friends, including the above-named men, left London for the Turkish/Iranian border. The last news of Dr. Fouladvand’s whereabouts was on January
17, 2007, when he was expected to meet the supposedly Iranian activists in the Kurdish province of Hakkary in Iraq, which is close to the Iranian border.
In January 2007, the agents of the Mullahs’ secret police arrested and smuggled these three men into Iran, where they were imprisoned and were subjected to torture.
Please contact anyone you can. Alert government officials, the press, the Amnesty International and the human rights organizations in your country of residence.
A few thought provoking articles for your readers………
“…..the CIA is giving arms-length support, supplying money and weapons, to an Iranian militant group, Jundullah, which has conducted raids into Iran from bases in Pakistan.”
Bush sanctions ‘black ops’ against Iran – Telegraph
“…..Attaur Rehman is yet another face of the new Islamic militancy in Pakistan. A graduate from Karachi University, he was arrested in June for masterminding a series of terrorist attacks in Karachi. A tall and heavily built man in his early 30s, Rehman was associated with Islami Jamiat-Talba, the student wing of the Jamaat-i-Islami. He later broke away from the Jamaat to form his own militant group, Jundullah (Army of God), which draws its cadres mainly from the educated and professional classes.
According to police, Rehman is closely associated with Al-Qaeda’s network in Pakistan, which has grown in strength despite the capture of hundreds of its operatives over the last few years. A well-knit cell comprising some 20 militants, most of them in their 20s and 30s, Jundullah is one of the new and, perhaps, the most fierce of the militant groups behind the recent spate of violence in Karachi. The group hit the headlines after a daring attack last month on the motorcade of Karachi’s Corps Commander. The general narrowly escaped death, but 11 people, including eight soldiers were killed. It was the most serious terrorist action targeting the military since the two failed assassination attempts on President Musharraf in Rawalpindi in December last year. Jundullah has also been involved in attacks on rangers, police stations, as well as the twin car bombings outside the Pakistan-US Cultural Center last month.
Jundullah is but one of several small terrorist cells that have emerged after the government’s crackdown on ‘jihadi’ elements. According to police officials, some 20 cells, largely splinters of the banned militant outfits, are operating in Karachi, which has become the main center of terrorist activities in recent months. “Many of those involved in the recent terrorist attacks in the city received training in camps in Waziristan,” says Tariq Jamil, chief of the Karachi police. “Jundullah has close ties with Al-Qaeda.”
“The CIA has denied any direct ties with the group, but U.S. officials tell ABC News U.S. intelligence officers frequently meet and advise Jundullah leaders, and current and former intelligence officers are working to prevent the men from being sent to Iran.”
why the Holocaust
The Hamas TV educational program, broadcast last week, taught that the murder of Jews in the Holocaust was a Zionist plot with 2 goals:
1- To eliminate “disabled and handicapped” Jews by sending them to death camps, so they would not be a burden on the future state of Israel.
and bit of freudian projection :
2- At the same time, the Holocaust served to make “the Jews seem persecuted” so they could “benefit from international sympathy.”
I just read your article “The Pseudo-Science of the ‘9/11 Truth’ Movement” and must take issue with the tone and substance of that article.
First and foremost: in a poll conducted by Zogby in 9/2007, 51% of Americans said they wanted Congress to probe Bush & Cheney’s actions before, during and after 9/11. There are other polls out there that show at least a majority (and sometimes much more) of Americans do not believe the 9/11 Commission’s report on the 9/11 events. There are literally hundreds of respected scholars; military officers (active & retired); academics, fire & police personnel; scientists, etc. that do not believe our Government’s account of what happened on that fateful day.
For you to take 2 people and run them through the mud and then villify the entire 9/11 Truth movement just serves to make you look foolish and as though you are hiding something… I mean, what is wrong with people trying to find out the truth? Do YOU sincerely believe WTC 7 just collapsed from a few small fires and minor debris hitting it??? Why are there no pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon? Why is there no plane wreckage from Shanksville? If Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11, why haven’t we captured or killed him? Why has the FBI not officially placed blame on Osama bin Laden for the attacks?
There are far too many questions unanswered, and if our Government was being honest, why wouldn’t they work harder to provide information and clarification about 9/11? Why is there so much secrecy? Why are people so dead-set against having another investigation? What could happend? Wouldn’t it just serve to enhance our understanding of those events — and through this — we could make sure it never happened again…
>why wouldn’t they work harder to >provide information and clarification >about 9/11?
NASA doesn’t bother either to work hard to provide information and clarification about the Moon-landing. There is a whole movement which claims that it never happened but it was all staged by Hollywood.
While the author is wright in saying both are irrational , she must understand that in hinduism and buddhism there is no call to persecute the unbeliever. Tradionally , hindus and budhhists have conducted debates and arrived at consensus.Exceptions have been there of course.
The problem with Semetic religions is not that they are violent but don’t accept other points of view and demand obedience to a book and prophet.Freedom of speech is not allowed at all. Violence is one of the means of preventing a scientific outlook.Non-violent methods include ex-communication and boycott(something like Gandhi did).
But in eastern religions , though irrational , you dont have such problems.Thats why hindu practices keep evolving to suit the times.
To give an example , RSS a hindu nationalist organisation has taken MF Hussain to court for painting nude images of hindu deities.No proof exists for the existence of these deities.But the hindu culture which fostered these irrational beliefs also taught people to prefer peaceful avenues first.
But we saw the amount of violence on the streets following the danish cartoons.
Moreover hindu deities and religous ideas are regularly ridiculed in movies and most hindus though hurt do not resort to violence.But if Islamic holy books are subjected to same amount of ridiculed you would be murdered.
Classic example is of Salman Rushdie.Something like that would not (would not be allowed) to happen in Hinduism.
Also Meera Nanda cannot write such articles in an Islamic country.
Stu Wilde asks:
‘Do YOU sincerely believe WTC 7 just collapsed from a few small fires and minor debris hitting it???’
No, I don’t. I believe it collapsed due to the major damage and fires seen here:
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/wtc7groove1.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/wtc7groove2.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/ZafarWTC7.jpg
I also believe Deputy Chief Peter Hayden, who was there at the time:
‘By now, this is going on into the afternoon, and we were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse’.
(http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/magazine/gz/hayden.html)
Can Meera Nanda get any muslim to accomplish the same thing with an “act of faith in Mohammad and Allah” ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFFMtq5g8N4
I read Jim Willmot’s article with great interest. Would that I could be so loquacious in my efforts to express the sentiments and facts contained in the article. Absent, however, is any suggestion of a course of action that can make any impact on the situation as a whole. I can tell you with no fear of contradiction that I am surrounded by the ignorance and superstition of rampant religiousity. I have been told by my wife to keep my opinions to myself, as she fears our house will be burned down if I don’t. I see on every hand the expressions of the ignorant, with little or no rebuttal from the scientific/atheist community, Mr. Willmot’s article and a few others excepted. And in all this, I realize that one cannot win an argument or score any kind of meaningful points against an ignorant opponent. I have looked at the Freedom From Religion Foundation, but am concerned that it presents itself as rant organization. I share Mr. Willmot’s concern for a future dominated by these people, but the present concerns me more. Thirty years ago I was heartened by the civil rights movement, the birth control pill, Roe v. Wade, and a host of other indicators that humanity had a chance. Now I am certain that Armageddon is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and that humanity is it’s agent, in the here and now. I am open to suggestion as to solutions.
Ah, the old wise Kaiser. “‘The old man was 80 by then,’ Churchill wrote. ‘He said he’d spent twenty years reading every history book he could lay hands on and there was only one eternal truth: anyone who steals land he wasn’t born on, is doomed.’” An eternal truth. Like, uh, the United States, for instance? Didn’t we steal our land from the Indians, slaughter them, imprison them, relegate them to reservations (from which they now exact revenge on us via casinos). Are you predicting the imminent doom of the U.S.? Or do these silly, infantile bromides only apply to Israel when you find them convenient? Oh yes, besides the U.S., there’s Australia, much of South America, Turkey (conquering, enslaving, killing the Greeks), and I’m sure many other countries. Ah, that wise old Kaiser! At least he lives on as the name of a roll.
“If you think an intelligent designer designed the universe, then how about the unsavoury aspects of his design?” – That is no argument against an intelligent designer – only against a universally benevolent “intelligent designer”
There is no reason to presuppose that an “intelligent designer” should he/she/it exist, be either benevolent or predisposed to reveal himself to is creation or have his existence open to explanation by science.
“Isn’t it more comforting, as well as more rational, to believe in design by impersonal forces of nature rather than design by a personal deity who’s guilty of wanting it that way?” – No it is not more comforting, it is merely more rational. The fact that that is maybe more comforting to believe in an intelligent designer maybe the primary reason for the persistence of religion.
Cowboys and Palestindians
Mr Sokal, you can come out now! This has to be a hoax.
As for the Kaiser’s bromide: ‘anyone who steals land he wasn’t born on, is doomed.’ This explains why Germany has been under seige by Danish, Pomeranian, Bavarian, Alsatian, Lorrainoise, and Polish terrorists operating with full cooperation in every neighboring country.
Of course the Czech republic is denounced in the UN on a daily basis because of ‘their reluctance to recognize that it is very reasonable for Germans, especially those from old or new Sudetenland …, to have a lasting sense of grievance about pan-Slavism’s takeover of their ancestral farms and villages’
Remember here that German expulsions after WWII number millions of victims not a few score thousands.
If Palestinian nationhood is the outraged victim, why doesn’t anyone complain about the 80% of Mandate Palestine carved off and handed over to an imported Arab king?
But of course, since there has never been an Arab or Muslim country called ‘Palestine,’ the political fantasy of Palestinian nationalism is never defined in terms of Jordan. Land is only ‘Palestinian’ after Jews have stood on it.
Ask a fan of Palestinian nationalism about Gaza and the West Bank BEFORE 1967. Listen to the deafening silence and remember that the annexation of these territories ‘began well before Israel’s declaration of independence and the subsequent declaration of war by neighbouring Arab countries in May 1948.’ The American journalist John Roy Carlson witnessed and described the massive infiltration of Egyptian and Jordanian soldiers in the months before partition.
Much more could be said but this should be enough to stir some thought.
I just want see it works to make comments
I do not like the traditional religions but there are some things that make them different from Scientology. An interesting case is this call for a resolution to revoke Scientology’s tax-exempt status in Texas:
“In order to preserve Scientology’s religious tax exempt status in the state of Texas an organization must meet objectives in order to qualify. They are listed in the following statements:
1.) The organization must have an official statement of Faith. The church of Scientology has no such statement.
2.) The organization must have some form of routine worship service. The church of Scientology has no such routine.
3.) Church services must be open and freely available to the public. The church of Scientology requires its members to pay an amount equal to or greater than 15,000 U S dollars and to be subjugated to months of mind altering auditing sessions in order for a member to obtain the information regarding the teachings of Scientology. Members who complete these courses are forced to sign agreements not to inform either unpaid/unaudited members or the general public of the teachings of Scientology.
Be it resolved that the church of Scientology in the state of Texas be officially regarded as a business and not as a religion.”
http://www.scientomogy.com/scientology_texas.php
That seems a good approach to me, instead of Dianetics, some more dialectic thinking, please:
Next step might be to realise that there are many businesses (Nike, Google, etc. ;-)) with “statement of faith”, “regular worship service” and “services freely available to the public”. Than the public could decide that there should not be any discrimination among the producers of irrational ontology + psychological assistance and all other commodities and either exempt them all from tax or tax them alike.
THE HIGH PRICE OF FREEDOM:
Honor Killing Victim Wanted to Live Like other German Girls
“At age 16, all Morsal Obeidi wanted was to live the way other girls in Germany do. She paid dearly: Obeidi’s brother stabbed her 20 times. Her murder has sparked a renewed debate in Germany about the failure of many immigrant families to integrate into Western society.”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,555667,00.html
LEAVING MUSLIM WOMEN UNPROTECTED: Red Tape Makes it Harder to Prevent Honor Killings
German red tape and a lack of will on the part of officialdom is putting some Muslim women in a very dangerous position. Instead of protecting them from the threat of honor killings, some of the bureaucracy actually increases the risk.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,555496,00.html
Urgent Attention
Another free thinker is to be executed in Iran in the coming days
It is with great regret that I inform all freedom loving people of the world that the Mullahs’ terrorist regime is about to execute one of Iran’s finest thinkers, a true patriot, scholar and historian.
Dr. Foroud Fouladvand is a dedicated monarchist, a Ferdousi expert as well as expert on the history of Iran and Islam.
A confirmed report sent to the office of Dr. Fouladvand in London from inside Iran suggests that Dr. Fouladvand and two of his compatriots are going to be executed on Saturday, May 31, 2008 or possibly even sooner.
The two men to be executed alongside Dr. Fouladvand are Mr. Nazem Schmidtt, an Iranian/American citizen, aka Simorgh, and Mr. Alexander Valizadeh, an Iranian/ German citizen, aka Koroush Lor.
Dr. Fouladvand, a British citizen, was known throughout the Iranian community for his open criticism of Islam and the Mullah’s tyranny.
Dr. Fouladvand, who is an expert on Islam, openly challenged the Qur’an in his daily television broadcasts for listeners both inside and outside Iran. His Television discussions were offensive to the Mullahs. On March 10, 2006, in a preplanned action, about 65 of his supporters refused to leave a Lufthansa plane in protest of the European Union’s policy of appeasement of the Mullahs’ regime.
Dr. Fouladvand was led to believe by an agent of the Mullahs’ regime posing as a monarchist activist from within Iran that there were many Iranian patriots inside Iran who believed in him, and that a meeting with them would be fruitful in organizing and uniting people inside Iran to oppose the Mullahs. On October 13, 2006, Dr. Fouladvand and a number of his friends, including the above-named men, left London for the Turkish/Iranian border. The last news of Dr. Fouladvand’s whereabouts was on January
17, 2007, when he was expected to meet the supposedly Iranian activists in the Kurdish province of Hakkary in Iraq, which is close to the Iranian border.
In January 2007, the agents of the Mullahs’ secret police arrested and smuggled these three men into Iran, where they were imprisoned and were subjected to torture.
Please contact anyone you can. Alert government officials, the press, the Amnesty International and the human rights organizations in your country of residence.
A few thought provoking articles for your readers………
“…..the CIA is giving arms-length support, supplying money and weapons, to an Iranian militant group, Jundullah, which has conducted raids into Iran from bases in Pakistan.”
(Telegraph)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanctions-%27black-ops%27-against-Iran.html
Bush sanctions ‘black ops’ against Iran – Telegraph
“…..Attaur Rehman is yet another face of the new Islamic militancy in Pakistan. A graduate from Karachi University, he was arrested in June for masterminding a series of terrorist attacks in Karachi. A tall and heavily built man in his early 30s, Rehman was associated with Islami Jamiat-Talba, the student wing of the Jamaat-i-Islami. He later broke away from the Jamaat to form his own militant group, Jundullah (Army of God), which draws its cadres mainly from the educated and professional classes.
According to police, Rehman is closely associated with Al-Qaeda’s network in Pakistan, which has grown in strength despite the capture of hundreds of its operatives over the last few years. A well-knit cell comprising some 20 militants, most of them in their 20s and 30s, Jundullah is one of the new and, perhaps, the most fierce of the militant groups behind the recent spate of violence in Karachi. The group hit the headlines after a daring attack last month on the motorcade of Karachi’s Corps Commander. The general narrowly escaped death, but 11 people, including eight soldiers were killed. It was the most serious terrorist action targeting the military since the two failed assassination attempts on President Musharraf in Rawalpindi in December last year. Jundullah has also been involved in attacks on rangers, police stations, as well as the twin car bombings outside the Pakistan-US Cultural Center last month.
Jundullah is but one of several small terrorist cells that have emerged after the government’s crackdown on ‘jihadi’ elements. According to police officials, some 20 cells, largely splinters of the banned militant outfits, are operating in Karachi, which has become the main center of terrorist activities in recent months. “Many of those involved in the recent terrorist attacks in the city received training in camps in Waziristan,” says Tariq Jamil, chief of the Karachi police. “Jundullah has close ties with Al-Qaeda.”
(Newsline)
http://www.newsline.com.pk/NewsAug2004/cover1Aug2004.htm
Al-Qaeda’s New Face
“The CIA has denied any direct ties with the group, but U.S. officials tell ABC News U.S. intelligence officers frequently meet and advise Jundullah leaders, and current and former intelligence officers are working to prevent the men from being sent to Iran.”
(ABC News)
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4913927&page=1
ABC News: Pakistan May Turn Over U.S. ‘Spies’ to Iran