Indirect effects
The Vatican is planning a party. Sounds like fun.
The Vatican has called on Catholics to atone for the sex abuse scandals that have engulfed their church in recent years by taking part in what may be the largest global prayer initiative ever seen…[E]very diocese in the world should name a priest to work full-time on the arrangements for the “perpetual adoration” of the eucharist. This would involve parishioners taking turns to keep a round-the-clock vigil in front of a consecrated host representing the body of Jesus…The aim was “to make amends before God for the evil that has been done and hail once more the dignity of the victims”, who had suffered from the “moral and sexual conduct of a very small part of the clergy”. He did not indicate how long he saw the adoration continuing.
Or, apparently, how the whole thing would work. How would parishioners taking turns standing around in front of a bit of bread ‘make amends’ (before God or before anyone else) for sexual abuse of children by priests? It’s not exactly entirely altogether perfectly clear – but hey, these people know what they’re doing, they’re experts in the field, if they say standing around in front of pieces of bread I mean perpetual adoration of the eucharist will make amends, then –
I gotta go.
Apologizing to a cracker aside, I don’t see why parishioners should be asked to atone for the church hierarchy’s systematic protection of child molesters.
I thought the Global Orgasm for Peace thing was just new age loopiness but it’s starting to look like razor sharp satire.I know, child sexual abuse is a serious matter and I shouldn’t joke about it but this is a joke and a sick one at that.
Of course I shouln’t be surprised: loopiness about guilt is what the Catholic church has done best ever since it came up with the perversity of “jesus died for your sins” idea.
“jesus died for your sins”
And children from generation to generation died inside themselves for the sins of the apostles of Jesus.
Suffer little children to come unto me for theirs was the kingdom of hell!
Mockery comes easy to those without any serious theological background, but those of us with certificates in RE understand that this is far more sophisticated than you can grasp.
The Church embraces both the clergy and the laity, where there is fault both must recognise their unworthiness. The clergy must instruct the laity to kneel and adore the wafer and if they don’t adore hard enough then whatever happens to their children is because of their own lack of faith.
The problem lies not with priests who rape children, nor with the hierarchy which has protected these priests for generations, but with the very parents of these children who have just not been adoring enough.
Of course, if you are not familiar with the writings of St. Scrofulous of Sidonia you couldn’t possibly grasp this very simple point.
“How would parishioners taking turns standing around in front of a bit of bread ‘make amends’ (before God or before anyone else) for sexual abuse of children by priests?”
OB –
Standing around, I gather, would be the last thing the adoring parishioners would be allowed to do when in front of the bit of bread. That in fact would be tantamount to sacrilegious behaviour. That would not under any circumstances by the Roman Catholic Church be tolerated. Neither too would the violation or injurious treatment of a sacred object such as the bit of bread – or if you wish to call it the body of christ. And in a lesser sense any transgression against the virtue of religion would be a sacrilege. It can come in the form of irreverence to sacred persons, places, and things.
It is such a pity that children were not considered by the Roman catholic clergy sacred enough -like the way the bit of bread is – injurious treatment was albeit by the latter their fateful lot!
Continuation: How to pray before the blessed sacrament In the Blessed Sacrament, through the unmistakable signs of our Lord’s nearness – humbly prostrate before Him in His sacramental lowliness as He hides the…etc
http://www.catholicliturgy.com/index.cfm/FuseActio
Don,
In my 13th edition (revised, bowdlerised & anything remotely sensible removed by Vatican council in 1337) of St. Scrofulous, he doesn’t actually specify the exact nature of the “wafer” to be adored…
Bowing (kneeling & scraping, in fact), to your superior theologification, can you please settle this vital issue –
Does it have to be a Carr’s table water, or is a Nairn’s (rough) oatcake an acceptable substitute in colder climates?
Mis-adoration of the false wafer surely leads to eternal damnation?
Can it be a Chips Ahoy chocolate chip cookie?
Or just a ‘waffer thin mint’ ?
“en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases”
Wiki uses the same nauseating language – as do others when referring to ‘Industrial Schools’ – calling them, instead, ‘orphanages’. The majority of children in Ireland who went into these Industrial Schools were in fact NOT orphans. They were incarcerated by the court system into these dreadful gulags for reasons such as their mothers’ were deemed unfit to look after them, or their mothers were temporarily ill, or their mothers were considered ‘fallen women,’ or children themselves may have robbed apples from the local orchards or perhaps they ‘mitched’ from school. Alternatively, the parish priest found the mothers wanting – say, – if per chance, she had a male visitor to the house – The children, irrespective of their number, were hurriedly snatched away from her by the well known cruelty men and were carted off to ‘Industrial Schools’. As I said before these, dreadful places were by the British ABOLISHED in the right side of the thirties, whereas in Ireland they were still thriving and booming up until the seventies. It GRIEVES me to see Wikipedia, above all sources, call them “orphanages” After – all these places were akin to child slave camps. The Magdalen Laundries were hellholes for teenagers and over. So one can just visualise tiny tots in a similar environment.
“The Vatican has called on Catholics to atone for the sex abuse scandals”
The Vatican should call on all religious to ‘properly atone’ for the permanent damage it did to those who spent whole childhoods’ under its diabolical prison roofs. Abused children in its so – called care did not have the advantage of having families to return to for comfort. The religious acted in loco – parentis, and were totally responsible.
It is once again ‘cherry-picking’ its victims.
Atonement for all [by the religious] for ALL those who were abused by them in the past in Industrial Schools.
Well Marie-Therese you can edit it you know! Or perhaps you don’t know, but you can – that’s the point of Wikipedia: that’s the ‘Wiki’: people can edit it. You can correct the mistake yourself. (There might then be protest and discussion…but it’s certainly better than leaving it uncorrected.)
Did you hear about the bishop in Spain who asked good Catholic parents to buy lots of weapon toys at Reyes? This, in his God-inspired mind, would make sure less would fall to the sickness of all sicknesses: homosexuality.
Only for boys of course, the bishops & the priests are quite more fond of the boys.
Maybe that’s the clue to the religious calling: not having got enough guns to play with whilst young.
“The Vatican is planning a party. Sounds like fun.”
“A friend & former Vatican official of the former pope is to plead guilty [on tuesday] – in an Ontario court to sex assault on boys”
With a highly Vatican placed friend like this – who, in God’s name [in their right mind] would want to have fun at the Vatican party?
OB: Thank-you for the Wiki information!
JoB! Haven’t heard from you in years. Greetings.
Ireland ‘left out’ in atonement drive for sins of the Fathers…the vatican’s call on catholics to atone for the child clerical sex abuse scandals that have rocked its foundations in recent years has handed http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/ireland-left-out-in-atonement-drive-for-sins-of-the-fathers-
Fathers’ Brendan Smyth and Sean Fortune, even in their demise are being protected by their respective religious congregations. As both during their lives were never by the pope defrocked. Subsequently, both are buried beside their other ‘Brothers in Christ’ in consecrated church ground.
Why does the pope not suggest to the laity that it kneels [with lighted candles in hands] in adoration around the grave-sides of the two demised paedophiles. After-all the Blessed Sacrament and the past conniving evil-doers graves are both in proximity to each other.
It makes one >:-< [angry,] :-|| [angrier,] >:-< [and absolutely livid,] just thinking about the double-standards of the RC church.
I don’t think Don was being serious, it reads like parody. I hope:-)
“Bishops are branded ‘narcissistic sociopaths’. A priest who suffered sexual abuse has branded bishops and priests who fail to reach out to abuse victims as…”
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/bishops