Nasty
So now it’s time for threats.
Senior Cabinet ministers including Gordon Brown and John Reid have been warned that Catholic church leaders will campaign against Labour candidates…Mario Conti, the Catholic archbishop of Glasgow, has written to five Scottish Cabinet members – the chancellor, the home secretary, trade secretary Alistair Darling, transport and Scottish secretary Douglas Alexander, and defence secretary Des Browne – repeating his warning to Tony Blair that preventing Catholic agencies from discriminating will be a “betrayal”…Last night, the church said it planned to defy the new equality law…[A] Catholic spokesman made clear the sense of rancour within the church.
That last bit really staggers me. The sense of rancour within the church – they feel aggrieved, they feel bitter, they’re pissed off and resentful. At…? At a regulation that forbids them to discriminate against homosexuals in the provision of goods and services. If there’s a sense of rancour, that means they feel they’re right to be angry – they feel they’re hard done by. They think it’s a ‘betrayal.’ None of this handwringing about teachings or our conscience, just bloody-minded resentment – at being forbidden to treat homosexuals as outcasts. So we’re right back in Little Rock in 1957 or Mississippi in 1964 – it’s just as benevolent, just as reasonable, just as excusable.
And Blair still hopes. Hopes what?
Mr Blair said he was still hopeful of finding a solution which would protect vulnerable children while respecting the sensitivities of both the religious community and supporters of gay rights.
Oh did he. What business does he have being hopeful about such a thing? Why does he want to ‘respect’ the ‘sensitivities’ of ‘the religious community’ at all? Why does he not just consider them not respectable and thus refuse to respect them? Substitute other ‘sensitivities’ and see how that rebarbative formula sounds. ‘Mr Blair said he was still hopeful of finding a solution which would protect vulnerable children while respecting the sensitivities of the white community.’ ‘Mr Blair said he was still hopeful of finding a solution which would protect vulnerable children while respecting the sensitivities of the Gentile community.’ ‘Mr Blair said he was still hopeful of finding a solution which would protect vulnerable children while respecting the sensitivities of the Caucasian community.’
Haven’t we learned by now that we ought not to respect the ‘sensitivities’ of people who want to treat other people unequally, excludingly, prejudicially, unjustly, for no defensible articulable secular reason? Haven’t we? I thought we had – construing ‘we’ to include people Blair would want to include himself among, as opposed to racists and other defenders of ‘No __ Allowed’ signs and blockages of school house doors and arresting or beating up women who refuse to move to the back of the bus. Give it up, Mr Blair; just respect a better set of sensitivities and let it go at that.
The Guardian – it’s time for threats.
>”If anyone knows what it is like to be a gay adopter of a child, it’s the Rev Martin Reynolds.”< >”Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, knows all about him too: he used to live next door when he was Archbishop of Wales. The boy played with his children. He knows that gay couples can provide a loving home for disadvantaged and at-risk children. Yet on Tuesday he wrote to the government demanding that religious adoption agencies should not have their consciences challenged by being required to consider gay couples as adopters.”< This is stomach churning. The Archbishop of Canterbury is an out and out charlatan judging from the above excerpt. Somebody ought to swiftly so, comparatively and evenly challenge his insensitive conscience. How may perhaps one with deference venerate such a high profile figure when he goes from one camp into another when the going gets tough?
Madeleine Bunting said:
>”Allow exemption over this, and all manner of comparable exemptions might be claimed; it could make a gruyere cheese out of the Equality Act.”<
Yeah, – what I think she truly meant to say, was – “Stinking Bishop’s Cheese”. Gosh, am I being nasty? Or what!
I think, Ms O’loughlin, that Bunting meant emmenthaler: that’s the cheese with the holes in it. There’s a nursery story about an argument as to whether or not the holes are a part of the cheese. But I think you know all about that. The Irish Roman Catholic hierarchy, apparently, decided that the holes were a part of the cheese, and alloted that portion to the orphans.
‘The Irish Roman Catholic hierarchy, apparently, decided that the holes were a part of the cheese, and alloted that portion to the orphans.’
Ooh. Good one, Elliott.
Yeah, all this stuff is stomach-churning.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21126951-2,00.html
Left Vs Right over misusing religion in politics.
Interesting too to see further evidence of the bare-faced hypocrisy of the SNP who will back any “cause” however revolting or immoral that helps it beat Labour in an election.
It hurts me to say so, but I can’t see anything wrong with a political campaign. If I felt especially strongly about, say, GM foods, I might want to campaign against candidates who championed it and rubbished organic food. But it’s unfortunate that they’re such effing hypocrites and nasty, nasty, twisted people, who are probably now wishing they still had Torquemada and the legal authority to get up to that that particularly evil shit got up to. I agree with OB’s every word – and the way she expresses it. Rhetoric is no argument – but it’s bloody fun!
>”The Irish Roman Catholic hierarchy, apparently, decided that the holes were a part of the cheese, and alloted that portion to the orphans.”< Bruder Basil also went up in smoke as well, when he found out about it!!!
>”Re: beating up women.”< I earnestly hope Miriam Shear wins her case. But by the same token I doubt very much if she will be successful. What a very courageous woman she was to rise up to the contemptible morons on the Jerusalem bus. There are not too many who would take such an audacious stand. She gets my vote. The bus-diver is observably following orders to save his much needed job. With regards ‘the adoption debacle’ one word that sticks out a mile —
“Compromise” “compromise” “compromise.”
Ah compromise, like the one the Catholic Centre Party made with the Nazis in 1933-4
– Oops, did I just lose the argument?
Compromise has it place, especially when there is a conflict between two differing points of view that could be seen as somehow equally valid. But that’s not how I see this case. Imagine a religion in which the sky-daddy commanded equal treatment for all…
So, will the compromise be of the Scottish Cheddar type, I wonder? If so, will it suit the connoisseur palates of the ‘holy’ English/Irish Emmentalers and the Stinking Bishop’s. Or will the be a lot of priestly Fondue stirring?
G: “with the Nazis in 1933-4
– Oops, did I just lose the argument?”
No. FWIW, all Godwin’s Law says is that as the thread gets longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler or the Nazis approaches one. No ruling on who wins/loses.
You might be implying that as hominems and loaded language mean you lose the argument but that hasn’t stopped these threads starting from them!
Replying to Ms. O’Loughlin …
It will certainly be hard cheese for someone!
Did anyone else not realise that these Catholic adaoption agencies are state funded?