Desolation Row
Have things changed, or did we (I, you, they) get them wrong in the first place? It can be hard to tell, sometimes. Or perhaps I mean always. It can be hard to sort out misunderstanding from wishful thinking, confirmation bias from overcorrection, too much suspicion from not enough suspicion, too much suspicion of X from not enough suspicion of Y – and so on.
From Open Democracy:
Some of my friends and relatives tell me I’ve changed – that my politics aren’t as “leftwing” as they used to be during the anti-nuclear movement in Britain back in the 1980s. In a way, they are right. My core politics haven’t changed, but it seems to me that the world has changed so dramatically – traditional alliances and reference points have become unreliable, the ground rules of the power game have so shifted – I’d be a fool not to incorporate these changes into my analytical framework.
Maybe. Maybe, maybe. Or maybe we (I, they, you) were (at least partly) wrong about some of those alliances and reference points and ground rules all along. Or maybe not. It can be very hard to tell. Which means it can be very hard to tell just what is ‘leftwing’ anyway. It’s getting to be a very slippery eel, that ‘leftwing’ attribute.
Unlike my compatriot Christopher Hitchens, however, whose break with erstwhile comrades on the left over foreign policy has resulted in a wholesale swing rightward, I still hope that my rethinking of some foreign policy questions can be incorporated into a vibrant progressive movement. Indeed, I’d argue that a strong defence of pluralistic, democratic societies needs to be an essential, perhaps a defining, component of any genuinely progressive politics in today’s world.
There’s an example of that eel right there. That ‘wholesale swing rightward’ is highly disputable (and disputed). Just for one thing, I would venture to say that Hitchens also hopes that his ‘rethinking of some foreign policy questions can be incorporated into a vibrant progressive movement,’ and he certainly would argue that a strong defence of pluralistic, democratic societies needs to be an essential component of any genuinely progressive politics – so the ‘unlike’ bit is not altogether clear. A distinction without a difference.
But the basic point is unexceptionable.
Yet reading the voices of much of the self-proclaimed “left” in the London papers in the aftermath of the bombings, I was struck by how ossified many of them have become, how analyses crafted at the height of the cold war have lingered as paltry interpretive frameworks for political fissures bearing little if anything in common with that “twilight conflict.”…They assume that groups like al-Qaida are almost entirely reactive, responding to western policies and actions, rather than being pro-active creatures with a virulent homegrown agenda, one not just of defence but of conquest, destruction of rivals, and, ultimately and at its most megalomaniacal, absolute subjugation…Moreover, many of those who reflexively blame the west do not honestly hold up a mirror to the rest of the world, including the Muslim world, and the racism and sexism and anti-semitism that is rife in many parts of it. If bigotry were indeed the exclusive preserve of the west, their arguments would have greater moral force. But given the fundamentalist prejudices that are so much a part of bin Ladenism, the cry of western racism is a long way from being a case-closer.
Well there’s an understatement. A bit of litotes, as a commenter usefully reminded me the other day when I was groping for an antonym for hyperbole. A bit of hyperbolic understatement, that is – ‘If bigotry were indeed the exclusive preserve of the west, their arguments would have greater moral force.’ Yes, they certainly would! But boy is that ever not the case. Nothing in that whole capacious box of human cruelty, brutality, exploitation, oppression – racism, sexism, nationalism, ethnicism, religionism, megoodyoubadism – none of that is the exclusive preserve of the west, in fact it flourishes in gangrenous proliferating bottomlessly malevolent ways in many pockets of the non-west.
Indeed, what al-Qaida apparently hates most about “the west” are its best points: the pluralism, the rationalism, individual liberty, the emancipation of women, the openness and social dynamism that represent the strongest legacy of the Enlightenment…It is because bin Ladenism is waging war against the liberal ideal that much of the activist left’s response to 11 September 2001 and the London attacks is woefully, catastrophically inadequate. For we, as progressives, need to uphold the values of pluralism, rationalism, scepticism, women’s rights, and individual liberty and oppose ideologies and movements whose foundations rest on theocracy, obscurantism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, and nostalgia for a lost empire.
Yes. We do.
Pamela Bone also makes that point.
”A move back towards the left for you?” a regular correspondent emailed, in response to a recent column. “I never left the left. The left left me,” I replied. “The left I thought I was part of didn’t make common cause with fascists.”
Therefore placation is not an option.
Of course we are all for peace, aren’t we? It’s certainly the easiest moral position to take. The problem is that sometimes things are just not that easy. And I am yet to hear a satisfactory explanation from the anti-war left as to what should done to stop mass murder when diplomacy has been exhausted and sanctions have failed. What should be done about Darfur?
What should have been done about Rwanda? Kosovo? Bosnia? Peace is good, war is bad – but sometimes peace is not the best good and war is not the worst bad. Sometimes peace is not peace but desolation, as Tacitus pointed out a long time ago. I’ve quoted this before, I think, but I’ll do it again, because it’s good. ‘Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.’ Where they make a wilderness and call it peace. By the same token, submission is not peace, it’s submission.
In the 1930s, people of the left went from around the world to fight fascism in Spain. The left didn’t argue then that fascists needed to be “understood” and placated. Today’s terrorists will be placated only when they have achieved their declared aim: a worldwide, Taliban-style Islamic state…I am not part of that left who seem to believe democracy is OK for Swedes but not for Arabs.
No. Nor am I (nor are you, we, they).
Hitchens also makes the point.
Never make the mistake of asking for rationality here. And never underestimate the power of theocratic propaganda. The fanatics look at the population of Bali and its foreign visitors and they see a load of Hindus selling drinks – often involving the presence of unchaperoned girls – to a load of Christians. That in itself is excuse enough for mayhem. They also see local Muslims following syncretic and tolerant forms of Islam, and they yearn to redeem them from this heresy and persuade them of the pure, desert-based truths of Salafism and Wahhabism…So, what did Indonesia do to deserve this, or bring it on itself? How will the slaughter in Bali improve the lot of the Palestinians? Those who look for the connection will be doomed to ask increasingly stupid questions and to be content with increasingly wicked answers.
Stupid questions and wicked answers – let’s not. Let’s at least try not to.
Have you then, Olivia, came around to the position that the Iraq War is good? Not an accusatory question, I’m just curious.
I remain unconvinced that the war in Iraq was necessary, appropriate, effective, or well-managed. Can there be an anti-Iraq War left that still finds the appeasers unsatisfactory.
Sadly, Hitch has gone far beyond just opposing the stupider elements of the left (and I’m with you there, OB) and has hitched his wagon to Bush administration foreign policy. And these two sentences are just as well-aimed at his new allies as his bitter enemies: “Never make the mistake of asking for rationality here. And never underestimate the power of theocratic propaganda.” Indeed, Mr. Hitchens. Indeed.
True, G, and he’s way too uncritical of the Bush admin as a result (at least, I guess as a result). I do disagree with him there. But – confusingly – he still regularly says things that are lefty things to say not righty things to say.
Nairb, no. I too remain unconvinced. I’m not at all sure in either direction, but no, I don’t think the Iraq war was good. (Then again, I don’t think the status quo without the war was good either. But then who does.)
But, G. Tingey, at least the Islamofascists believe in a higher power! They’re very spiritual people, you know. You’ll never find them stuffing their faces with McDonald’s hamburgers and driving environmentally ruinous SUVs. We should be so lucky to live so passionately and spiritually!
Sorry, the initial URL is truncated. Should be:
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/srebrenica.justice/wab.htm
“Bosnia is being held together probably into perpetuity by a foreign military occupation which has the authority to dismiss elected officials, etc”
That sounds bad at first blush – but then what if the alternative is ethnic cleansing/genocide/permanent civil war – also into perpetuity?
That situation seems to be the only item on the menu in so many places – Iraq, Kashmir, Indonesia, Rwanda, Sudan, Chechnya, and on and on and on. What can be done about that other than preventing it? Even by force, even by the dreaded foreign occupation.
That’s not a rhetorical question. I really don’t know. I’m not saying foreign occupation is a fine thing. But I am saying chronic civil war and mass murder is worse.
Hmmmm – I’m not sure whether the alternative would have been really _permanent_ civil war. Far as Yugoslavia is concerned, I think allowing it to fall apart in constituent republics which probably were less viable than Old Yugoslavia was (and Tito’s Yugoslavia itself was far from a multi-ethnic paradise), was a mistake in the first place. Once it nevertheless happened, ethnic cleansing was inavoidable. In the case of Croatia – an independent Krajina would have made Croatia pretty much an impossible construct (as a map of the area would show), and there was not a chance in Hell the Krajina Serbs would join an independent Croatia (neither Zagreb nor Belgrade encouraged them to do so, anyway), so eventually the emergence of a Croatia without Serbs was inevitable. With Bosnia, it was likewise almost inevitable that the three contituent groups would try and begin to carve out their own territories. And international intervention didn’t _prevent_ any of that. It didn’t prevent ethnic cleansing in Croatia. It didn’t prevent the attempted ethnic cleansing of the Albanian majority from Kosovo, and the subsequent ethnic cleansing of the Serbian minority from Kosovo (at least the rump of which seems to be set to become either an ethnically clean, independent state, or a part of Albania – with the likewise ethnically clean northern parts probably joining Serbia). And I don’t think it prevented much of anything in Bosnia, either. It merely froze the conflict at a point when most of the carving-up had already been done.
Of course, it’s arguable that a more muscular military intervention than what eventually happened would have prevented a lot of the slaughter. At least it seems that Srebrenica could have been avoided. But how much of that is the wisdom of hindsight, and how much of that presupposes a political culture in the West that simply didn’t exist at the time, and doesn’t exist now (see closing paragraph), I do not know.
You mention Iraq. Do you think the eventual emergence of an independent Kurdistan can or should be avoided? Note that this will probably also involve ethnic cleansing (namely, Sunni Arabs from Kirkuk – who, truth be told, came there at the cost of the Kurds in the first place, though I doubt they had much choice in the matter). And what about Indonesia? Suppose Aceh gains independence, with or without foreign intervention. What will happen to the Javanese currently living and working there? And how would a military intervention respond?
In the end, I suppose the core of my criticism is that foreign military intervention can both be used to prop up failing states or to speed up their (violent) break-up into more stable parts, but that so far, quite a few humanitarian military interventions seem to want to do both at the same time.
“Do you think the eventual emergence of an independent Kurdistan can or should be avoided?”
Boy…do I ever not know. In one way, no, but in another way – ? Ideally, I think there should be no stans at all – that no stan should be carved up on the basis of nationality, religion, ethnic whatsit, race – on the basis of any footling meaningless category that boils down to Our Gang and Everyone Else. Simply because Our Gangism just seems inevitably to lead to what it always does seem to lead to: hatred, and then mass murder. I think everywhere should be cosmopolitan and pluralist, secular and neutral with regard to race.
But, dream on.
So I don’t know.
Oh, I totally agree with the sentiment, OB – but I think Stans are going to be around for some time to come. More and more seem to have come into existence the past fifteen years – and that’s probably because the last society that professed to be free from Our Gangism had a way of not-too-subtly sneaking it back in through the back door.
Reminds me of the old Soviet joke. “What is someone who speaks only one language?” (i.e. Russian). “An internationalist”. “What is someone who speaks two languages?” (i.e. Russian and some minority language). “A nationalist.” “What is someone who speaks three languages?” “A dangerous rootless cosmopolitan.”
“More and more seem to have come into existence the past fifteen years”
Indeed – as have the accompanying pogroms. Which is exactly why nationalism no longer seems like such a right-on idea. But then (I always wonder) why did it ever? That’s one of the things I have in mind when I ask is it really that the world has changed or is it just that we got things wrong? I used to think (if you can call it thinking) certain brands of underdoggish nationalism were a ‘left’ thing. I no longer do – but I also wonder why the hell I ever did think that. Because everyone else did, mostly; because it was ‘common knowledge,’ because that view was the dominant discourse, because I wasn’t paying enough attention or thinking critically enough.
Good Soviet joke. Sums it up.
RE Hitchens, Pat Buchanan’s reactionary rag has just published a long hatchet job on him, claiming that Hitch is the true, ultimate neocon–i.e., a godless commie in sheep’s clothing.
http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_10_10/article3.html
Karl: I stopped reading that screed when the writer called Aids “a disease whose sexual transmission would cease if Catholic teaching were followed.” Now I feel slightly dirty for ever having looked at that link at all. Think I’ll go have a shower now.
Yes – and another reason for the equation of underdoggish nationalism with the left is of course that minority nationalities are often treated unequally or systematically persecuted. So it wasn’t completely silly. But…it overlooked a lot. And from the perspective of now, it looks like a huge mistake. (Funny – the Marxist types did always say – but we wouldn’t listen…)
Merlijn: Yeah, I know, pretty icky stuff, huh? But you see the vicious circle Hitch is in: he’s gone so far to the right he’s actually a godless commie prevert. Must be all the fluoride in his Johnny Walker.
If only more of the Marxists _had_ distrusted nationalism. Stalinists were happy with it, Maoists loved (and love) it. Even the Trots who chanted “Ho Ho Ho Chi Min, how many Trots have you done in?”* were marching on demos that supported his victory.
* about ten thousand or so, apparently.
Ah…good point, Chris. I guess I meant – the Marxist types who said that, said that.
I have a suggestion to help you with your confusion OB. You need to make a few adjustments to your understanding of the words “left” and “right” (don’t worry, the effect will only be minor I’m sure).
Replace current understanding of “the right” with the following: “bad people who don’t care about others”. Similarly, “the left” can simply be thought of as “all people of good will”.
I think if you stick to these definitions things will be a lot easier. You’ll find you almost never come across those distressing examples of “lefty” types doing something that doesn’t seem quite right (Stalin’s gulag, Mao’s Great Leap Forward etc) or those equally distressing situations when “the right” do something you secretly think might be for the best (e.g. preventing ethnic cleansing in Kosovo etc).
Very droll, GT. But actually I try not to be secretive when the right has done something I think may be for the best. That’s rather the point. It’s also the point to try to pin down exactly what left and right do mean.
I think that they are not very useful labels and tend to hinder rather than help intelligent debate. They try to capture views on too many things on too simple a scale.
At the very least we need look at the economic and social dimensions separately. (For those interested in giving their package of views some sort of left-right rating on these two dimensions, there’s quite a fun game at http://www.politicalcompass.org)
My main problem though is that it often seems that the whole left/right label is more important to people than the underlying issues.