Physician Heal Thyself
Another Update. This time on the matter of voting dogs and marrying gays, of the ethics and etiquette of comparing gays to dogs, of Johnson’s joke and rhetorical animalia, of ad hominems and arguments, of substance and style, of professionalism and irony, of sarcasm and insults, of cabbages and kings.
Chris at Crooked Timber posted yesterday about Burgess-Jackson’s, shall we say, provocative simile, with an amusing addendum about canine psephology. Burgess-Jackson commented on Chris’ comment later the same day.
The folks at Crooked Timber are having fun at my expense…What’s interesting (and ironic) is that nobody at the site engaged my argument. In the insular world of liberalism, argumentation is unnecessary. One mocks conservatives; one doesn’t engage their arguments. Perhaps this explains liberalism’s failure in the public arena.
That’s a remarkably disingenuous comment, it seems to me. It’s true that the post in question didn’t engage his ‘argument’ but then Chris did say that Richard Chappell had already done a good job of exactly that, and did provide a link. That particular post (like mine) was about the analogy, not the entirety of B-J’s argument against gay marriage. I’ll speak for myself: I wanted to comment on the analogy, period. I didn’t want to address the whole gay marriage argument; it doesn’t interest me much; but the analogy did, and does. It interests me all the more now because of Burgess-Jackson’s apparent inability even to see what the discussion is about. I find that kind of odd. I also find it odd that B-J complains that people ‘mock conservatives’ when surely his own post mocked gays, and that’s why people object to it. And people at CT haven’t even compared him to any animal, not even a cuddly bunny or a darling little hamster! In fact they haven’t even done all that much mocking. What they have done is take exception to the dog comparison – so B-J equates that to mocking conservatives? How, why? Because it was the only thing he could think of?
Then John Holbo posted on the subject, and so did Burgess-Jackson. Holbo did it amusingly, B-J did it even more weirdly and evasively. Did it in a manner even more inadvertently self-accusing and self-condemning than the first one. Which is interesting – as an example of strange psychology, of bad moves, bad thoughts, clumsy rhetoric, some or all of those.
Several people have written in the past few hours to tell me that there’s a reply to my posts about homosexual “marriage” somewhere in cyberspace, the implication being that I’m obligated to respond to it. I don’t have time to respond to every critic, much less the uncharitable ones, much less the nasty ones. Does Peter Singer respond to even 1% of his critics? Did John Rawls? If they did, they’d never get any work done. David Hume didn’t respond to any critics. Was that a failing on his part? My rule is simple: Reply only to those who are personable (but certainly not to all of them, for time is limited). When I read something, including e-mail, I stop reading as soon as the author gets sarcastic or insulting. If you want me to read your prose, you must be kind and respectful. Is that too much to ask?
Humble, isn’t he. What about Kant, did he answer his mail? Spinoza? Aristotle? Don’t be shy.
The posts I saw on Crooked Timber yesterday are personal and vicious.
Um…Oh, never mind. It’s too obvious.
Uh, was there really much of an argument for anyone to respond to in KBJ’s gays-are-just-like-dogs post? What else is there in it but the rhetoric? And, most important of all, who can take seriously anyone who calls himself an “anal philosopher”? The guy is culturally tone-deaf and socially clueless.
David Hume didn’t respond to his critics? I cannot be bothered to respond to the faecal remains of this argument, if they deserve that imprimature.
And, most important of all, who can take seriously anyone who calls himself an “anal philosopher”?
The more I read about this man, the more I suspect he is actually somehow trolling us all.
Connie. Couldn’t have put it better. You must be kind and respectful though, so don’t go likening anyone to any dumb animals now, e.g. by comparing the twit to a horses arse.
“The more I read about this man, the more I suspect he is actually somehow trolling us all.”
Yeah, that’s Henry’s (qualified) suggestion – that he does stunts to boost the readership of his blog. Could be. But, I don’t know, it seems a bit foolish. The guy does actually teach philosophy at a university. His students and colleagues can read his blog. It seems odd that he would want to make such a prat of himself in public.
I see that to date he has five count them five posts complaining about liberal unfairness in ganging up on him, conservatives as outsiders, blah blah blah, and yet he doesn’t have time to address the actual substance. He has ample time for paranoiac red-herring whining, and not two minutes to say either that the dog analogy was perhaps a mistake or that it was a perfectly good analogy and here’s why. Surely that just makes him look silly to anyone of any persuasion who reads his blog. And him a philosopher! It’s weird.
“Uh, was there really much of an argument for anyone to respond to in KBJ’s gays-are-just-like-dogs post?”
If you think he was saying gays are like dogs you obviously didn’t have a clue *what* he was trying argue. You’re not in a position to list the arguments he made in support of it.
“If you think he was saying gays are like dogs you obviously didn’t have a clue *what* he was trying argue. You’re not in a position to list the arguments he made in support of it.”
Well, if you are in such a position, then do enlighten the rest of us.
It seems that most of us are objecting to the seemingly not-so-subtle implication that gay marriage is as much of a sham as letting dogs vote. But hey, in the spirit of fairness, let’s see you list all of the arguments KBJ uses to support this statement. I shall be waiting to read your sparklingly clear explanation of KBJ’s position.
Phil
Peter: Yes, how stupid of me. Upon more careful consideration, I see that Professor Burgess-Jackson’s analogy actually says: “Gays are to marriage as dogs are to voting”. That’s a lot more compelling as a logical argument. Of course he didn’t mean to equate gays with dogs, because that would have been needlessly offensive and the good professor is clearly way above stooping to such cheap rhetorical tricks. Thanks for the corrective chastisement.
/sarcasm off/
*mock* *mock* *snicker*
No, Connie, you silly goose. If you had taken the trouble to read it, you would have discovered that the Philosopher’s argument goes as follows:
1. If we allow gays to vote, then I will be forced to marry my dog.
2. It is wrong for me to marry my dog, no matter how good it feels.
3. Therefore, we must stop gays from voting.
This is perfectly obvious to anyone whose mind hasn’t been ruined by a liberal education.
Karl: Ah, now I get it. Thanks for the handy syllogism. Not having read the Great Man’s textbook, I was incapable of extracting such an esoteric argument from his supersubtle Gay Dog analogy. But I’m having a little trouble with that second premiss. Why is it so wrong to marry one’s dog? And what exactly do you have against geese that you would compare me to one? I await enlightenment from you.
Oh – see, I thought he was worried about being forced to vote for a dog. Imagine it – imagine the campaign – tv ads full of dogs showing off their spouses and children and – um – dogs…wait…