Unless you’ve agreed to confidentiality, it ain’t confidential
What was that we were saying about how it doesn’t work to send someone a furious abusive email and then announce that it’s confidential? How you can’t just send people shit they didn’t ask for and then order them to keep it secret? Behold Marc Randazza in 2014 saying exactly that, and unlike me he’s a lawyer.
This happens to all of us, from time to time. A lawyer sends you a letter with some threatening language on it that he thinks accomplishes his goal of making it “confidential.” You know, like this:
CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL NOTICE
PUBLICATION OR DISSEMINATION IS PROHIBITEDThe correct legal response is “suck my ass” or whatever you want to say. Ok, fine, how about “your point is invalid”. Let’s go with that. It is nicer, after all. And I’m all about being nice.
Now here’s one thing you can rest assured of: If someone puts that foolishness on their letter, it is because they’re afraid of that letter getting out there. They can’t possibly have confidence in what’s in it. Look, I write a letter, I expect that it might wind up getting slapped on Simple Justice, with Greenfield making fun of it. Even then, I can’t seem to catch every typo. But you know what? If my name is on it, you can bet your ass that I’ll own it.
And here’s why you can make the chucklefuck who signed YOUR letter own it by publishing the shit out of it, if you want.
For starters, saying “This letter constitutes confidential legal communication and may not be published in any manner.” is about as legally compelling as Michael Scott yelling “I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY.” Lawyers do not have magic powers that turn letters into confidential communications. You’re more likely to find a lawyer who can turn water into funk than a lawyer who has the magic spell to make a letter confidential. Sure, there might be some rules that make them inadmissible for certain purposes in litigation. But, you wanna share that letter? Go right the fuck ahead. Unless you’ve agreed to confidentiality, it ain’t confidential.
And have you agreed to confidentiality? No you have not.
Here’s Michael Shermer trying it on that post of Phil Torres’s yesterday:
As for our email correspondence Torres, at the bottom of every email I’ve sent you appears this statement below. I have nothing to hide at all, but privacy laws exist for a reason and our correspondence is private. You asked if you could make it public and I declined. If you do not understand why the law protects peoples’ privacy, or why people want privacy, then you don’t understand what privacy means. Here is the statement that appears in every email I send out:
This private email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized publication, broadcast, review, use, disclosure or distribution of its content, substance or meaning, by email, social media or any other means, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.
So ridiculous. “Is prohibited” – it sounds so official but is so meaningless. Prohibited by whom, Kemosabe? You can’t just slap “is prohibited” on things you don’t want other people to do and expect them to obey. The “unauthorized” is equally ludicrous. We don’t have to be “authorized” to talk about stupid shit people have said to us without our inviting them to.
Marc Randazza again:
Bottom line, no court has ever held I DECLARE CONFIDENTIALITY to be valid, nor has any court supported the “DON’T MAKE FUN OF ME BECAUSE COPYRIGHT” position – but an undisturbed case, relying on mountains of precedent, refutes it.
Bottom line: you send me unsolicited insults, don’t expect me to protect your “privacy.”
Big thanks to Screechy Monkey for citing the Randazza post.
Like so many things, this is more about social etiquette than legal obligation.
If someone writes and trusts you with confidential information, blabbing that info may well be a shitty thing to do. For example, if someone writes a blogger and shares their story about sexual harassment or abuse, it would be pretty lousy to publish that without permission.
Conversely, if you write nasty, abusive, and/or threatening messages to someone, you really shouldn’t expect them to keep your “secrets” that you “shared” with them unprovoked.
We have a brief footer on our work emails that says something along the lines of “This email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please let us know and delete the original. Please do not read distribute or copy the email or any attachments.” I paraphrase…
Point is, we know that under NZ law we can’t do anything other than appeal to somebody else’s good nature – after all, we sent the email. If the intended recipient wants to send it on, well, it is actually a public document. If it wasn’t for them, it’s all a bit murky and depends whether they use the email in some way that makes whatever they do illegal.
In any case, if I sent an abusive, threatening or insulting email using my work system, my future prospects might be in selling vege’s at the local market.
Amazing how unlibertarian some self proclaimed libertarians turn out to be when others don’t obey them.
The only issue I can see is that Shermer might argue that there was a reasonable expectation of privacy, since Torres asked whether he could publish the emails and Shermer said no. I can’t see how that would fly because (at least some of) the emails were sent by Shermer before that conversation happened, so weren’t sent under an expectation of privacy, but I’m not a lawyer either.
I’m just saying that given Shermer’s history of firing off ludicrous lawsuits at all and sundry, I’d want to chat with a lawyer and show them all the exchanges before publishing, just to be on the safe side. But then, I have free access to lawyers so that’s easy for me to say.
As a privacy researcher of some years I can state with some authority that Michael Shermer does not understand what privacy means.
Of course, the best part of all this is that there’s a very strong chance Shermer has pulled this trick before, with people who didn’t realise that the disclaimer is not binding. If this story helps them find that out, who knows what will come out of the woodwork?
I found that thread to be most informative; not only regarding the lack of legality behind such declarations, but also regarding the petty immaturity, the anti-thought and anti-criticism bro mentality of Shermer. I’m glad I never bothered reading his work.
I am reminded of Donald Trump’s legal reasoning regarding the unlimited nature of the Presidential pardon power: “I’m well-off, white, male, and am sure I am very smart. I believe X – perhaps mostly because, at this time, I’d like X to be true – therefore, X.”
It’s precisely the utter failure of critical, careful thinking that Shermer’s vaunted skepticism ought to be all about avoiding. It’s also a piece of so-called reality constructed purely through will and social power that ought to be anathema to supposed realists.
I am not a lawyer out of any school save that of Australian Bush Justice.
BUT my understanding is (and someone please correct me if I am wrong) the traditional way to end a letter is for the sender to write below the text:
‘Yours,
A. Sender’
Whether it is ‘Yours faithfully’, Yours sincerely’ or ‘Yours whatever’, the sender is thereby passing ownership of the document to the receiver: implicitly to treat as their own private property, and do with as they please.
I don’t think so. I think “yours” is shorthand for something like “your humble servant”. ie it refers to the sender, not the document.
latsot @ 3 – Does Shermer actually have a history of firing off lawsuits at all and sundry? Or is it just a history of threatening to do that? I don’t off the top of my head know of any actual lawsuits.
Well there’s the one against FtB for starters.
But my memory tells me there are numerous others, all aimed at silencing via legal bills. I’ll have a shufty around and jog my memory when I get a chance but I’m sure I’m right.
Or I could just say so on Twitter and wait for him to sue me, which would take even less work ;)
Actually, I might be thinking of Carrier. Long day. I’ll have a look when I have chance and try to prise these buffoons apart in my mind.
I wondered if you might be thinking of Carrier.
Shermer definitely hasn’t sued FTB. He threatened to sue PZ but never did. He blusters about suing Phil on that thread.
It’s a funny thing, but he’s never sued Alison Smith, who has said in no uncertain terms that he raped her.
PS I googled and couldn’t find any actual lawsuits.
No, you’re right. Idiots tend to merge together over time and I must be finding them increasingly difficult to tell apart at my advanced age.
In my defense, however, Shermer is still a fucking prick.
But if you tell anyone about my stupidity I will TOTALLY SUE YOU.
You see, I visited your website using the https protocol, which encrypts data between me and the server. That’s TOTALLY a reasonable expectation of privacy. It’s written right here on a post-it note on my monitor that nobody is allowed to tell anyone I was wrong, which is totally binding.
And in my defense, Carrier is also a prick.
Of interest — Taylor Swift’s attorneys just tried to pull the “this threatening letter is confidential and copyrighted” trick. (See page 4 of this.)
The ACLU was not impressed.
Well that was a fun read.
I like to imagine the conversations that go into these things.
Lawyer A: “The client is really ticked off about this blog post, and wants us to write a nastygram to the author.”
Lawyer B: “The author has about 100 followers on Twitter. Shouldn’t the client be worried about the Streisand Effect here? A threatening letter could just bring more attention to an otherwise obscure blog post.”
Lawyer A: “But writing threatening letters is what we do. And it’s what the client wants. Just add some more threats to the threatening letter, threatening bad things if they try to talk about our threatening letter!”
Lawyer B: “Brilliant! I can’t see any way this doesn’t work out well….”
Oh, look what they made her do!
From the ACLU letter:
“Criticism is never pleasant, but a celebrity has to shake it off, [..]”